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Maybe strum pio's assault rifle profile is not correct. To me, I see strum pio's range is long and medium and short though my infantry squad is in green cover.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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It's the exact same profile as the Panzer Grenadier's MP44
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Thanks. That confirms what I need to know. They are better at every single range by a considerable amount. Conscripts and rifle men ARE NOT a valid counter. Back to a dual sniper opening I guess.
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Can we wait a week before judging that "OKW is OP pls nerf"?
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When i read the main post, i interpreted: "Sturmpioneers, arent OP, but they are pretty OP". You are inferring it too strongly to be able to deny it.
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They should not outperform
I understand the idea.
Make them upgradable
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Sturmpio's not OP, they are counterable ofcourse but I want to discuss something with the guys here who have big brains. OK, sure.
Compare Rear Echelon - Combat Pio's - Pio's - Sturmpio's.
First units should not outperform others in that way. So OP then, if it shouldnt do its role.
I understand the idea about having an elite faction, but not that early. Elite faction is elite and expensive. No exceptions. You hear Sturmpioneer and think badass pioneers, but get a wimpy four man team? Eh, no.
Make them upgradable, sure. More armor? sure. But early shocks is not good for balance imo. They are expensive. They dont have armor. They are four man. They dont throw grenades to give them any advantage, or smokes to avoid suppression.
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Remember the fall out when Shocktroops were 1 CP? Did we learn any lessons from that? Apparently not. Even at long range the MP44 weapons profile has the advantage.
4.555729002 vs 4.825042368
This is not balanced. They are better at every range.
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Remember the fall out when Shocktroops were 1 CP? Did we learn any lessons from that? Apparently not. Even at long range the MP44 weapons profile has the advantage.
4.555729002 vs 4.825042368
This is not balanced. They are better at every range.
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Remember the fall out when Shocktroops were 1 CP? Did we learn any lessons from that? Apparently not. Even at long range the MP44 weapons profile has the advantage.
4.555729002 vs 4.825042368
This is not balanced. They are better at every range.
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Remember the fall out when Shocktroops were 1 CP? Did we learn any lessons from that? Apparently not. Even at long range the MP44 weapons profile has the advantage.
4.555729002 vs 4.825042368
This is not balanced. They are better at every range.
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