how to maxim ?!?!????!?!?!?!?!?!?! (3v3)

Jump back to quoted post12 Aug 2021, 21:36 PMKlement Pikhtura

you can make it work and people are using it at almost every rank, but the inconsistency kills it.

I like HMG34, despite people hating on it a lot. In 2v2 I built it every game.
If I put all HMGs in descending orders my picks would be HMG42, DShKa, HMG34, .50cal, Vickers and the last would be Maxim for sure. The first two are excellent, 34 and .50 are good, Vickers is OK and Maxim is meh.

Jump back to quoted post13 Aug 2021, 12:27 PMKatukov

The DSHK better be good considering that one pays 300 manpower for it

yet it is comparable at best with the mg-42, which is 40 manpower cheaper.

I think that both the Dshk and maxim would benefit from a larger firing arc, both can be pretty easily flanked without even flanking the rear, but by just walking around the mg.

clearly the maxim strats simply work better on the MG-42, as the larger cone of fire and basically immediate suppression (eventually vet 1 ability) are really good, and it's weaknesses are the same for every other machine gun. The maxim gets to beat the mg-42 in green to green cover, apparently, but that is not exactly their purpose anyhow

Jump back to quoted post13 Aug 2021, 12:54 PMKlement Pikhtura

AFAIK there were a lot of iterations of nerfs to maxim, because it very spammable and mobile. Maybe balance team is afraid of touching it again.
DShKa is awesome. It is a highly mobile and very effective suppression platform with 6 models. Won't be surprised if some say it is the best HMG in the game

Jump back to quoted post13 Aug 2021, 12:54 PMKlement Pikhtura

AFAIK there were a lot of iterations of nerfs to maxim, because it very spammable and mobile. Maybe balance team is afraid of touching it again.
DShKa is awesome. It is a highly mobile and very effective suppression platform with 6 models. Won't be surprised if some say it is the best HMG in the game

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2021, 19:05 PMVaz

The dshka is an anti aircraft gun isn't it? The penetration on that thing should be sky high. It makes no sense to me why the best armor piercing machine gun in the game is the mg42 vet1. Why in the world....Shooting incendiary rounds(I call them rainbow rounds) causes higher armor penetration? Penetrates armor better than dshka and .50 which are slower firing with bigger bullets. Isn't that supposed to be the tradeoff? Bigger bullets hit harder but you have to fire the slower because they heat up the barrel faster.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2021, 19:05 PMVaz

The dshka is an anti aircraft gun isn't it? The penetration on that thing should be sky high. It makes no sense to me why the best armor piercing machine gun in the game is the mg42 vet1. Why in the world....Shooting incendiary rounds(I call them rainbow rounds) causes higher armor penetration? Penetrates armor better than dshka and .50 which are slower firing with bigger bullets. Isn't that supposed to be the tradeoff? Bigger bullets hit harder but you have to fire the slower because they heat up the barrel faster.

Jump back to quoted post15 Aug 2021, 23:01 PMVaz

...likely real life too.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2021, 08:09 AMJulianSnow

Only thing OP wants to hear is; "Maxims suck and should get buffs". Really no point in discussing this.


When I use Maxims they always seem to work, it's all about positioning, keeping the arc-cone out of the FOW and ofcourse pure RNG.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2021, 08:09 AMJulianSnow

Only thing OP wants to hear is; "Maxims suck and should get buffs". Really no point in discussing this.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2021, 08:09 AMJulianSnow

Only thing OP wants to hear is; "Maxims suck and should get buffs". Really no point in discussing this.


When I use Maxims they always seem to work, it's all about positioning, keeping the arc-cone out of the FOW and ofcourse pure RNG.

Jump back to quoted post11 Aug 2021, 00:56 AMKatukov

I consider the maxim, like all allied machine guns, garbage. I never build them in the early game, i find other soviet units to be more flexible.

However, what if I, god forbid, was wrong?? What is the forum opinion on the maxim, and, more importantly, how to effectively utilize it & what strategies are viable with it?