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14 Feb 2020, 05:31 AM
#21
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I think Royal Engineers actually preform worse than Rear Echeleon Troops in combat.
14 Feb 2020, 05:43 AM
#22
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 05:31 AMCODGUY
I think Royal Engineers actually preform worse than Rear Echeleon Troops in combat.


Really???
14 Feb 2020, 12:05 PM
#23
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Alright, give the damme squad full thompson with pg's stg profile. Happy?


If it has 4 entities, costs 340 and comes at the same time frame it would be less of an issue.


Om the serious side.
Even if officer is moved to T1 and toned, I will prefer to keep the light gammon bomb, it do decently vs garrison useful in more overall situations than flame nade, can be locked behind platoon CP.

Actually incendiary gammon (VG stas) from start is probably superior.


Additional model then should be consider move to vet 1 since the unit have less fire power.

It could start with 5 entities from vet 0 with lower meg profiles.


Recon, should be keep if possible , it is a handy tool since ukf lack direct recon options. Removed vet requirement but require company CP to be active will make it an equivalent to major.

Also, officer can use a hammer/anvil - like upgrade system, hammer provide thompson, anvil is rifles and bren.


see my suggestion.
14 Feb 2020, 13:47 PM
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Really???
codguy still has to get 1 stats right so i wouldn't believe him
14 Feb 2020, 13:53 PM
#25
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The OP never played British, I bet he doesn't even have the army unlocked.
14 Feb 2020, 14:32 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Feb 2020, 23:55 PMCODGUY
UKF doesn't even have an effective long range infantry unit any more. Panzerfusilers will counter any Brit infantry and murder Tommies badly.


Double Bren Infantry Sections have 22,5 DPS at 35 range.
G43 Panzerfusiliers have 11,6 DPS at 35 range.
14 Feb 2020, 14:34 PM
#27
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sander u know cod guys is always like this why respond to him

mods won't ban him and he is free to spread miss information
14 Feb 2020, 14:55 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 12:05 PMVipper

If it has 4 entities, costs 340 and comes at the same time frame it would be less of an issue.




And not being limited to 1, deal :v
14 Feb 2020, 15:20 PM
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And not being limited to 1, deal :v

That is simply homogenization. I would rather have an earlier Hammer/anvil choice bren become closer to BAR available to 5 man squad and Vicker-k available only to 4 men squads.
14 Feb 2020, 18:12 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Feb 2020, 01:24 AMVipper

Actually heroic charge was very powerful and actually since the Air landing officer lack camo om can easily give brens and use him as a long range unit.



PG are not good on the move compare to CQB units they lose half their DPS while moving. Only the G43 PG are good on the move.

Have you ever used pgrens sir?

Another thing to note about airlanding officer is that commando stens are useless beyond 10 range.
14 Feb 2020, 18:38 PM
#33
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Have you ever used pgrens sir?

Yes I have


Another thing to note about airlanding officer is that commando stens are useless beyond 10 range.

The majority of SMG where designed like that and for good reason. "Elite" Thompson where the exception because USF elite infantry already come with great weapons.
14 Feb 2020, 18:56 PM
#34
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Double Bren Infantry Sections have 22,5 DPS at 35 range.
G43 Panzerfusiliers have 11,6 DPS at 35 range.


Correct

Although a case can be made that Panzer Fusis are still superior due to less sunken cost, utility, and better vet placement.
14 Feb 2020, 19:04 PM
#35
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Really???


If you upgrade RETs with Double BARs or 1 BAR and 1 Flamethrower with the Rifle Company doctrine the Rear Echeleons are surprisingly good. They get a 5th man at Vet 3. I think it's easier to vet them though because they're available right away where as Royal Engineers aren't available for a while so by the time they hit the field there fighting vetted Grenadiers, Volks or newly deployed Panzergrens which they're not match for any of those.
14 Feb 2020, 19:06 PM
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Double Bren Infantry Sections have 22,5 DPS at 35 range.
G43 Panzerfusiliers have 11,6 DPS at 35 range.

Slight cost and timing disparity there though... Next to conscripts and lmg Obers!
14 Feb 2020, 19:07 PM
#37
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Correct

Although a case can be made that Panzer Fusis are still superior due to less sunken cost, utility, and better vet placement.


Essentially. Double Bren Infantry Sections will be available right when you've got swarms of 6 man, vet 2 or 3, G43 equipped Panzerfuzilers.

Also I've noticed Infantry Sections take much longer to reinforce, but maybe it's just me.
14 Feb 2020, 19:10 PM
#38
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RE with vet1 buff is extremely deadly and they vet super fast, not to mention you don't need any weapon upgrades, so they are still better than RETs.
14 Feb 2020, 19:16 PM
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Slight cost and timing disparity there though... Next to conscripts and lmg Obers!


And what do cost and timing disparities have to do with me only quoting the DPS numbers to prove that the claim that "UKF doesn't even have an effective long range infantry unit any more" is false?
14 Feb 2020, 19:19 PM
#40
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Anyway I like the Brit AO idea can't wait to try it out.
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