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16 Sep 2014, 09:38 AM
#41
avatar of vasa1719

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Also AtG just basically 1 shot Kubel so... gg.



You forget about kubel target size, you first need to hit him and in my games kubel was a life after zis shoot (i think its RNG decide).
16 Sep 2014, 10:34 AM
#42
avatar of Bulgakov

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No, you are under performing. In your job. I can't believe someone actually pays you for your work.


I would pay him 5$ a time to troll you and other abusive playstyle players.


[00:03:47] ~TAB~ Aerohank: go fuck yourself smartass
[00:10:58] ~TAB~ Aerohank: fuck that bug
[00:11:12] ~TAB~ Aerohank: and fuck you you abusive piece of shit



And this after you spammed the hell out of snipers-guards-ISU almost every game you've played? Tsk tsk...
16 Sep 2014, 10:35 AM
#43
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Especially the irony. You know what e-Sports is all about? Min-maxing. Getting the units that perform best for their price.
Brad did to you exactly what any 'professional' player would do. Kubels either overperform or at least most opponents do not know how to counter them yet, so abuse the hell out of them.

Is this lame, boring and pretty disgusting if you are on the receiving end and just want fun? Yes.
Is this though exactly what e-Sports is about, playing for the win instead of enjoyment? Yes.

Youre right. But who is gonna watch that? I know i wont.
16 Sep 2014, 10:41 AM
#44
avatar of Aerohank

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And this after you spammed the hell out of snipers-guards-ISU almost every game you've played? Tsk tsk...


Unless there is another guy named Aerohank out there, you can stop lying.

It's confusing. In the post below you make perfect sense and seem like a reasonable guy. And then in the post above you are a complete lying cunt.
16 Sep 2014, 10:45 AM
#45
avatar of Bulgakov

Posts: 987

E-sports only works if people want to watch. Currently the strongest strats are often very very boring to watch. It used to be maxim maxim maxim vonmaxim, now it's sniper sniper sniperian / rifle rifle rifle rifle captain AAHT / Volk volk kubel kubel puma pzrfusilier pzrfusilier pzfusilier. Not bad strats per se but boring when you see it every time D:

Esports Players will play to win and so they should. But if the developer wants the game to be popular on Esports (to sell more games and DLC and future titles) then they have to make it so the players will produce an interesting game, not cheesy boring BS.

No-one's gonna tune in or buy a ticket to watch 8 Maxims troll around. That is why the game's not ready for Esports.

Oh and the multitude of bugs, the lag, the badly-dubbed voice files that make all sov and axis units sound like they're from anywhere but Russia and Germany.
16 Sep 2014, 10:52 AM
#46
avatar of Bulgakov

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Unless there is another guy named Aerohank out there, you can shut the f&&k up you lying piece of s&&t.


Wow...

But I'm not lying. It's every replay I've seen of you and the game we played. You went sniper, sniper, fuel cache, fuel cache, guards, etc, ISU, button+bombing run, trololol. I was extra glad we won vs such abuse.


I think if you used an ISU more than 3 times, you have lost any right to complain about other players abusing. Especially if what they're "abusing" is the Kubel when Soviets have plenty of counters to it. T2 has AT gun, maybe you didn't know.

You, Aerohank, play to win, you find the strongest stuff, you don't care if it's horrible to play against. Don't complain when others do it.


Here's at least one game showing how good you are with snipers to ISU strat. Clearly you've done it plenty.
http://www.coh2.org/replay/21839/2v2-at-tab-vs-7sins-6cp-game
16 Sep 2014, 11:00 AM
#47
avatar of Aerohank

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You might want to edit the post then.

You and I have played 1 game together where I made 1 sniper total. You guys on the other had used fuel drops to pump out King Tigers. But whatever, it was a good game. But don't make shit up.

The first no-spam game I've seen in a long time, both armies playing combined arms (T70, whaaa) and later the big hitters, ISU vs KT, no Tiger, vetted Pivs flanking the ISU, KT buttoned and bombed, a little Luftwaffe cheesiness to help vs the ISU and some vet5 Pueppchens.


Sorry about the name calling, even though it was appropriate.


16 Sep 2014, 11:08 AM
#48
avatar of Sarantini
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well we certainly have the drama of a proper esport title
16 Sep 2014, 11:13 AM
#49
avatar of Bulgakov

Posts: 987

You might want to edit the post then.

You and I have played 1 game together where I made 1 sniper total. You guys on the other had used fuel drops to pump out King Tigers. But whatever, it was a good game. But don't make shit up.



Sorry about the name calling, even though it was appropriate.




First let me say I know you're a good player. I'm not trying to give you any disrespect in these posts. The point I'm making is that you have used "abusive" units too. You prbably didn't feel too bad about it.



You do what you thought strongest. Breaking Brad did the same. I'm not saying it makes for a fun game but this is the way of the world, sadly.

When you have used ISUs, flamer HTs, snipers+guards+button - did you feel bad? I don't think you did. Now the shoe is on the other foot and you don't like it. I understand you! I don't like these things either.

I don't want a game full of cheese. I'll be glad to see the Kubel changed if the other early vehicles get nerfed too.


But the main point is that if you've used something horrible against other players, you can't expect other players not to use it against you.


"Sorry about the name calling, even though it was appropriate."

So you're not sorry really. Is "lying piece of shit cunt" ever really appropriate? :P Don't worry, names don't bother me at all.

16 Sep 2014, 11:25 AM
#50
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I don't consider getting a single sniper, a T70, some T34s and later on a ISU152 very abusive in a team game where counters are easily available. I could have told my teammate to maxim spam while I got 3 snipers and guards straight into ISU152s if I wanted to abuse the game.

But I suppose opinions differ on this matter. Hell, Tristen called me out for maxim/guard spamming on the second page when I played against him, eventhough I only had 2 maxims, 2 guards, 2 conscripts, a zis and was building a SU76.

So obviously we have a difference of opinion. You clearly think that 1 sniper is abusive, and I don't.
16 Sep 2014, 11:38 AM
#51
avatar of Greeb

Posts: 971

So right now using a ISU-152 is considered abuse??


16 Sep 2014, 11:49 AM
#52
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:38 AMGreeb
So right now using a ISU-152 is considered abuse??




Everything that isn't conscripts (except if you spam them), penals (except if you spam their flamers), mortars (except if you use precision strike), partisans (except if you spawn them behind to kill vehicles), irregulars (except if you spam their nades), m5 (except if you upgrade to quad) su-76 (except if you spam their barrage), su-85 (except if you manage to kill a vehicle with it) is abusive.
16 Sep 2014, 12:04 PM
#53
avatar of VonIvan

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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:49 AMCruzz


Everything that isn't conscripts (except if you spam them), penals (except if you spam their flamers), mortars (except if you use precision strike), partisans (except if you spawn them behind to kill vehicles), irregulars (except if you spam their nades), m5 (except if you upgrade to quad) su-76 (except if you spam their barrage), su-85 (except if you manage to kill a vehicle with it) is abusive.


16 Sep 2014, 12:18 PM
#54
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

Gonna love Soviet sh8th34d complaining Kubels to elite infantry, while what Soviet did since 2013 is maxim, shock, IS2, ISU. :lol:

Maxim, no micro required,
Shcoks, no micro required,
ISU, LOL

Kubels, you better raise your apm or fucked.
16 Sep 2014, 12:22 PM
#55
avatar of ImSkemo

Posts: 444

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 11:49 AMCruzz


Everything that isn't conscripts (except if you spam them), penals (except if you spam their flamers), mortars (except if you use precision strike), partisans (except if you spawn them behind to kill vehicles), irregulars (except if you spam their nades), m5 (except if you upgrade to quad) su-76 (except if you spam their barrage), su-85 (except if you manage to kill a vehicle with it) is abusive.


HAHA perfectly put sir,

The world is not fair it never will be so stop complaining and start to adapt, 3 Kubel openings why did no one think of that before coz we were all stuck at doing same stuff over and over again coz most of us are afraid of the unknown im sure there is way to deal with 3 kubels we just need to figure it out.

I know that whenever in design phase a lot brainstorming takes place its not like some one pulled these out of there behind and stuck them out to see what happens. Have faith in the dev team this is an amazing game and having played many games for over a 2 decades i can tell you this is the best RTS so far that stays true to the history while making it fun to play.

peace!!
16 Sep 2014, 12:31 PM
#56
avatar of ZombieRommel

Posts: 91

Can anyone watch this and say "Oh yeah, Kubel is fine." ?

Suppression buff was overboard. It's a mobile suppression platform, and that's okay. But now it is essentially an MG42 on wheels. That's cool and all, but the fact that it can rotate on a dime to suppress flanks and tank ZiS rounds (all with no fuel cost, mind you) is very alarming.
16 Sep 2014, 12:57 PM
#57
avatar of gary.giles71

Posts: 165

Just give the M3 and dodge suppression and call it even.
16 Sep 2014, 13:26 PM
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16 Sep 2014, 13:57 PM
#59
avatar of xeno

Posts: 82

What a complete idiot dev. Silent in all serious balancethreads and then comes out of his cave to troll aero in this thread. WTF

Noob Relic
16 Sep 2014, 13:59 PM
#60
avatar of Mackie

Posts: 254

hahaha! nice pic vonivan :lolol:

this thread is gold

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