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by Aerohank 15th September 2014, 20:55 PM
  • [00:03:14] ~TAB~ Aerohank: #blance
  • [00:03:35] [ |?] B R E A K I N G B R A D: so do you thinik the kubels are underpforming?
  • [00:03:47] ~TAB~ Aerohank: go fuck yourself smartass
  • [00:10:58] ~TAB~ Aerohank: fuck that bug
  • [00:11:12] ~TAB~ Aerohank: and fuck you you abusive piece of shit
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15 Sep 2014, 22:55 PM
#1
avatar of Aerohank

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Amazing job on the balance Relic. This game is truly the next big thing in Esports.

Featuring:
Truck pushing
3x Kubel opening
JLI spam
15 Sep 2014, 23:13 PM
#2
avatar of Sierra

Posts: 432

Amazing job on the balance Relic. This game is truly the next big thing in Esports.

Featuring:
Truck pushing
3x Kubel opening
JLI spam




So at what point does your maxim spam, shock spam, or M3 + Flamer abuse kick in?
15 Sep 2014, 23:16 PM
#3
avatar of Aerohank

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jump backJump back to quoted post15 Sep 2014, 23:13 PMSierra




So at what point does your maxim spam, shock spam, or M3 + Flamer abuse kick in?


Well first I never do any of those things.

Secondly, watch the fucking replay before being a smart ass.
15 Sep 2014, 23:47 PM
#4
avatar of Lucas Troy

Posts: 508

I see what you mean Aerohank, but I think what happened was Breaking Brad himself suspected Kubel spam might be working too well, so he set out to test it. If he hasn't used it himself how is he supposed to know if it needs to be tuned down? He's on the balance team - his job isn't to show case how perfect play, it's to work on finding and fixing problems.

And of course in order to test this he needs to exploit everything he can - high level play is all about using every advantage you can get, so it's hardly a good test of kubel spam if he refrains from truck pushing, since in the natural game environment, truck pushing would also be present.

He wasn't making fun of you before he just made a joke to lighten the mood, is all.
16 Sep 2014, 00:01 AM
#5
avatar of Mackie

Posts: 254

Someone needs to make a breaking brad troll/abuse emoticon.

dat moment when you need high caliber anti tank gun to take out a unarmored car with a lmg mounted to it

#blance
16 Sep 2014, 00:08 AM
#6
avatar of Napalm

Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2

Well, thinking positive about it Brad has provided a very good build order that will help ruin 1v1's for awhile.
16 Sep 2014, 00:11 AM
#7
avatar of Lucas Troy

Posts: 508

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 00:08 AMNapalm
Well, thinking positive about it Brad has provided a very good build order that will help ruin 1v1's for awhile.


I am slightly afraid of that. I only play OKW from time to time because I like getting games in faster than 15 minutes (when I play it's almost always 90-95% axis). So gonna be facing plenty of 3x Kwagens for a while. Oh well. Time to adapt in the meanwhile.
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#8
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So do you think kubels are still under performing?
16 Sep 2014, 00:13 AM
#9
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jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 00:12 AMbC_
So do you think kubels are still under performing?


No, you are under performing. In your job. I can't believe someone actually pays you for your work.
16 Sep 2014, 00:17 AM
#10
avatar of Lucas Troy

Posts: 508

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 00:12 AMbC_
So do you think kubels are still under performing?


Somehow, this was just the perfect response. I actually laughed out loud.

16 Sep 2014, 00:20 AM
#13
avatar of c0mpl3x1ty

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Post if ur #butt #hurts
16 Sep 2014, 00:27 AM
#14
avatar of Lucas Troy

Posts: 508

I disagree that flaming people is fine if they're using an "abuse strat." When I'm fencing, I don't scream at my opponent during the bout even if they're doing something obnoxious... and I would expect similar conduct in any other sport. Now, if you wanna discuss it with them after the match, that's another thing. But screaming at someone during competition itself is never okay in any sport, e or otherwise, in my book.
16 Sep 2014, 00:29 AM
#15
avatar of Greeb

Posts: 971

I disagree that flaming people is fine if they're using an "abuse strat." When I'm fencing, I don't scream at my opponent during the bout even if they're doing something obnoxious... and I would expect similar conduct in any other sport. Now, if you wanna discuss it with them after the match, that's another thing. But screaming at someone during competition itself is never okay in any sport, e or otherwise, in my book.


I consider both things bad sportmanship. With the little difference that one is just a player/customer and the other one is a developer.
I expect a developer to not troll, abuse or make fun of a player.

If he wants to test new strats for balance's sake I was thought that they have a beta server to try these things.
16 Sep 2014, 00:30 AM
#16
avatar of voltardark

Posts: 955

Just imagine it in 4vs4... Reflect perfectly the state of the game.

They could write a book : How dev's stubbornness scraped a good game.

Not willing to admit that balancing 4v4 was crucial to the well being of COH2.
16 Sep 2014, 00:35 AM
#17
avatar of Lucas Troy

Posts: 508

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 00:29 AMGreeb


I consider both things bad sportmanship. With the little difference that one is just a player and a customer and the other one is a developer.

I expect a developer to not troll, abuse or make fun of a player. If he wants to test strat I was thought that they have a beta server to try these things.


Any thing in the game that's not cheating is within the bounds of sportsmanship. Doesn't matter if it's too good or not. There's no rule in the game saying you can't build 3 Kubel wagens and then spam JLI.

People want gaming/e-sports to be treated like regular sports, but they're not willing to raise their conduct to that standard. It's silly.

16 Sep 2014, 00:37 AM
#18
avatar of Napalm

Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2

jump backJump back to quoted post16 Sep 2014, 00:29 AMGreeb



I expect a developer to not troll, abuse or make fun of a player.
If he wants to test new strats for balance's sake I was thought that they have a beta server to try these things.


Yep, that employee code of conduct.
16 Sep 2014, 00:38 AM
#19
avatar of VonIvan

Posts: 2475 | Subs: 21

What's going on in here?
16 Sep 2014, 00:40 AM
#20
avatar of Greeb

Posts: 971

I was thinking more about the truck pushing, with 3 bulletins to improve its speed, which was clearly abusive and lame.
Do you think that was fine? Well, good for you. If that's the "high level" strategy this game can offer then I foresee for CoH2 a short future in ESL.
And of course, no new players getting hooked with the game if they are abused like that in their first games.

People wants to see real competitive games no that spam and abusive shit allowed only by a pathetic state of balance.

Btw, is funny how the OKW player had 4 vehicles in the first minutes of the game without expending a single point of fuel.
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