Profile of Katitof

the t34/85 is better than a p4. it doesnt need another cost reduction. also, t34/85 spam without teching was far too common last patch for a reason. there was no incentive to tech when call ins came out so early.

P4 have 3 MGs and can shoot planes.
34/85 have lower scatter.
P4 have more armor and will deflect shots more often.
34/85 have hp to withstand 1 more shot.
P4 have much better vet ability and can acquire awesome doctrinal ability.
34/85 is doctrinal, P4 is not.

Thats pretty equal to me and again, considering 34/85 comes 4-5 mins later due to CP change, I don't really see a reason why it would cost more.

Even 1v1 against P4 can go both ways, depending on RNG purely, unless 34/85 attacks rear.

It wasn't not that much for call-ins being spammable, especially in 34/85 case as it was that soviets could finally use general use med tank that wasn't obliterated by german armor.

People will still skip T3 and go for 34/85 simply because it works.
To have 34/76 same appeal you either need to crush opponent, cutting his fuel for the most time or use soviet industry so you can overcome weakness with quantity.

The reasoning is quite simple, there is a greater opportunity cost associated to a double call-in given you have to save up 240 fuel. For that reason, the double call-in is provided at a discount. The cost of the single call-in T34-85 better represents what its cost would be if it was integrated into the core tech.

Bottom line, saving up 240 fuel has an associated opportunity cost; therefore, we provide the user a slight discount to compensate for this factor.

Then why not 320/115 for single one and discount for double call-ins?
After all this is P4 level tank that will come much later now.

What is the reasoning behind putting P4 level tank 1 CP before IS-2/Tiger?
To me that doesn't make much sense.

The appearance of the icon gives the player a statement of what they are getting, in this case they are misrepresented. I would not put a picture of an mg in place of the panther's image.

No, the ability list gives the player a statement of what they are getting.

I said that munitions for fuel is fine, but that this is not a good excuse to provide munitions heavy call ins in a munitions limited doctrine. If you think even with munitions exchange a Ost player can not worry about munitions you are very wrong. By sacrificing fuel they must now use munitions to kill tanks and heavier equipment. It is a strategy change not a solution to the underlying problem.

Then you have a complete lack of understanding of what commanders are.
Commanders ARE strategy change. If all commanders allowed you for same strat and same ways of dealing with things, WHY would we have different ones in the first place?

Strafe is good because it loiters and therefore forces infantry off the field. Because of larger soviet squad size you can just ignore single pass strafes. Both strafes appear on the field at exactly the same time. Why?

It doesn't force off anything if you don't move in with your troops to finish off pinned infantry. It just delays them. Effectiveness of strafing run is in 100% dependent on what you do after the pin, it doesn't matter if its one loiter or 10.

Ost does not need to rely as heavily on its doctrine as the Soviets do, but if you think that Ost does not need to worry about the doctrine it picks you need to play more Ost.

I've played enough to state at least 50% of games I had I could have won even if I haven't picked a doctrine at all. This is also what I see on streams, germans play often enough up to 6-8cp without selecting one. Soviets can't afford this, but we all know that. This particular doctrine allows for new things ost couldn't do before, now they can if they choose too. Its also not as muni heeavy as you make it seem, because all of the abilities cost 50% less then their originals and, again, you have fuel to muni ability to supplement yourself.

I have to disagree that Ost commander is useful. I have listed the reasons below:

1) Icons are identical with icons already in game, although the abilities are not actually those abilities

Why do you think icon look have an impact on usefulness of the ability?

2) Commander has two useful abilities and three that are bad
a) Recon fly by is fine for cost, but with lag input it is almost useless since arty abilities rarely trigger as it flies by

Not an issue nor an excuse, unless you play on 7 year old rig and 1mb radio net.

b) Fuel to munitions is good for Ost so this one is ok

4) Forces Ost to rely on munitions heavy strats, within an extremely munitions limited faction

You contradict yourself.

c) One strafe pass is not very useful since it only pins one squad or two and yet comes out at 6 cp's, so you could have regular strafe at same time. Also soviets can just wait it out since it does not come back.

1 pass is enough to explit the advantage it gives. If you can't, it means you have used it and done absolutely nothing.

3) Abilities have timers like original abilities but do not operate in same fashion, looks very amateur.

This is pretty much the only issue you are right about.

Soviet commander by contrast is quite good.

1) Arguably allows either T1 or T2 opening or simple conscript spam
2) Works synergistically with late game to give excellent medium tank and tank destroyer
3) Provides excellent balance of abilities to round out play style

TLDR: The Soviet commander is not OP, it is just a good commander. I foresee it replacing many other options. The Ost commander is not good and will be relegated to comp stomp games at best.

I am so tired of commanders at this point, I do not want to see one more commander added to this game.

Because the two factions function completely differently.

Soviets need to rely on a doctrine, while for germans its just a supplemental thing.

Moreover the two doctrines have completely different functions, one is specialist support, other is general purpose, you can't compare them at all only because you got them at the same time.

And every 2vs2 i play vs sovjet, i see doubleshocks or shocks and guards or doubleguards or maxim spam or sniperspam or..... so it's frustrating too.

What I read here is "every game I face is not a conscript spam".

Don't worry, you will have your conscript spam every game after patch.