Tea Maker Machine I'd LOVE you to show us that cons destroying heavy vehicles, that unkillable 6 man squads you speak off(as mine seem to die pretty quickly to all the LMGs and AA HTs).
Also, which doctrine gives you free medium and heavy tanks? I'd love to try it!
Soviets may be strongest in 1v1, but its not a huge margin-definitely not even close to what some people here want it to make.
Its also not relevant, because everything will change in a coupe of days and we'll have to relearn the game again.
Soviets are dominant by a huge margin in 1v1. Except when Ostheer decides to cheese it out with perfect CAS usage |
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Sov is imo strongest faction. All strats work while other factions need meta to stay competing.
Flames and LMG's are OP as well imo.
Cons > rifles imo OpieOP
You have to invest so much resources in rifles to keep them viable late game. Losing rifles in late game is suicide, non vet rifles in late game just make you bleed without dealing any dmg.
Edit: right about the meta.
US > strong early, strong mid, weak late game. Docs > rifle company, infantry company.
SOV > strong early, weak mid, strong late game. Docs > shock rifle, guard motor.. Almost all docs work imo.
WERH > weak early, strong mid, strong late. Docs > CAS, lightning, StugE.
OKW > weak early, medium mid, very strong late. Docs > pak 43, FS hmg doc and ostwinds doc.
I think vanilla factions are the best designed and all round stronger them WFA factions.
Because Conscript Support, Industry, Guard Rifle, Irregulars, Partisans or NKVD work  |
Soviets win the 1v1 category by far. |
Your original quote:
In all honesty, a 4v4 rank is nothing, really nothing to brag about. Grab a team of 4 semi decent players and stomp 85% of the games because most of the 4v4 players are low skilled players.
You don't get a rank in 4v4 random by "grabbing a team of a 4 semi-decent players" because it's entirely random who you are with and against
How you manage that governs your skill level at random 4v4 because some people are better at it than others and over time the vagaries of the matchmaking will even out.
So anyone who wants to claim, as people in this thread have, that "4v4 is no skill mode" is full of pudding.
4v4 AT is a different kettle of fish, and a team of competent players can break the top 200 without too much problem because, especially as Axis, the balance is so much in your favour for AT v Randoms that it's mostly a matter of playing 20 or so games with the same people.
That said, it's still a case of who is better at it than others.
Whats your point?
Its obvious that some players are better at 4v4 than others, random and AT. Doesnt mean 4v4 requires much skill. A 4v4 random rank depends on your luck and a high 4v4 AT rank is easily obtained.
You cant tell me that 4v4 demands near as much skill as 1v1 does. Its bullshit. Ive played all modes quite extensively in both CoH1 and CoH2 and 4v4 is a spammy scrubfest every single time. Its not fun for me, but it apparently is for some people. Fair enough. Just dont be delusive enough to believe that 4v4 takes much skill and knowledge to play successfully. |
Sorry I forgot how I get a team together in 4v4 random could you explain to me perhaps?
Like or not, there are ranks in 4v4 random and some people are better at it than others.
its just luck what kind of random team you get. a 1v1 top 10 player is better than a top 10 4v4 player guaranteed. |
dont listen to music while playing this, it makes you distracted and play worse. |
yea it is
creates so much variety and in depth strategy, this 1 early game winning house everyone rushes to the moment the game starts  |
That's why there are ranks that say some people are better at it than others obviously
In all honesty, a 4v4 rank is nothing, really nothing to brag about. Grab a team of 4 semi decent players and stomp 85% of the games because most of the 4v4 players are low skilled players. |
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