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Thread: Bulletins revamp28 May 2020, 14:32 PM Bulletins are useful for Relic. They are there so they can pad the amount of objects available in each drop. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Inconsistency vehicle snares28 May 2020, 03:44 AM Range is fine. I would consider putting all snares at same cd. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: COH2 Co-op redefined! 27 May 2020, 22:06 PM Archon mode in SC2 In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Assault Grenadier spam - every, single, game. What gives?27 May 2020, 21:06 PM Jump back to quoted post27 May 2020, 15:08 PMMarcoRossolini Huh, this thread blew up. Ironically, stock Grens have lately given me more problems than Assgrens since I now go into a game expecting to face assault grenadiers. Map type appear to have a lot to do with it as well. The bigger the map the easier time I have. Maps that have easily defended cut-offs tend to give me a bad day - that and my micro still being garbage. Check commander loadout. And be ready to adapt and change playtsyle according to what you see. Gren + MG42 Only Grens Pios + MG42 > fast PG Gren + 1 AG AG Osstruppen In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Grenadier spam - every, single, game. What gives?27 May 2020, 08:21 AM Jump back to quoted post27 May 2020, 06:50 AMVipper It seems you agree with me that Stock grenadier are bad at attacking and that is part of the reason why AsG and Ostru are used. No. I'll have to explain cause you just want a simplistic generalisation as saying "Gren bad on attack". It seems to me you are avoiding topics you don't like to answer to. Simple questions: 1-Do you think stock grenadiers are fine for anything other than 1v1? 2-Have you check how people are playing with OH through the 2v2 tournament? On 1v1: Let's start by realising the greatest strength for OH on 1v1 is the T2 timing. Against Soviets, Grenadiers stock can match any stock Soviet opening. But why go even if you can pull ahead with doctrinal infantry openings or gamble for a fast T2. Against UKF/USF you can't match 1on1 squads and rather than sitting and playing a long extended T1 opening like old days (3/4 Grens, snipers, MG42) you do the same as with Soviets going for doctrinal opening and transitioning to T2. Osstruppen are not good at attacking, but they will force you to take some time to dislodge them and either you spread your forces or you will be losing map control. In spreading you can use PG/222/FHT to attack lone squads. Grenadiers can push/attack fine, but not doing so in a way that they won't lose map control or spending resources which are better spent at that point in the game on other things (medic, teller, FHT, etc.) In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Grenadier spam - every, single, game. What gives?26 May 2020, 22:05 PM Jump back to quoted post26 May 2020, 21:29 PMVipper I did not post that grenadiers are bad, actually I posted something completely different, this is what I wrote: "Playing with stock Ostheer units one lucks the pushing power" Ostheer are good at defending and the smaller the area they have to defend the easier it get to defend it. The problem has to do with how bad are grenadier at attacking, so people prefer going to AsG or Ostruppen that at least allow map control. If that was the case the would relay at grenadier in tournaments yet as far as I know AsG and Ostru are very common in tournament also. Playing with stock Ostheer units one lucks the pushing power until T4 and even then he might be straggling. Not sure how you interpret that. T2 push is a thing, same when they are able to get a fast Ostwind or once the PIV arrives. IF you don't like doctrinal commander, you go with the Pio transition into T2. Grenadier spam with no follow up is bad in attacking because you are trying to assault and match 1on1 against units which are more expensive and better at that role. The moment you mix up MGs or sniper or you are able to transition into G43/Assault Leader it completely changes the dynamic. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Grenadier spam - every, single, game. What gives?26 May 2020, 21:17 PM Jump back to quoted post26 May 2020, 20:33 PMVipper Or one can argue the exact opposite that AsG and Ostrup can no longer secure map control as effectively because there facing twice the enemy opponents. In the same time Ostheer have to defend a smaller area of the map so they can do that more effectively. You are basically saying the same i said before but deflecting on the point that Grenadiers are effective on (2v2) tournament setup. Just because the most optimal way to play OH on 1v1 is using doctrinal infantry doesn't mean that Grenadiers as a unit is bad. On top of that you have to take into account top players playstyle. Historically some people prefer brute force style of playing (say Von Ansten playing Gren spam with 5 man squads) or "traditional" OH play with MG/Sniper play (Luvnest). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: KT thread26 May 2020, 20:08 PM Jump back to quoted post26 May 2020, 18:15 PMJae For Jett I mean, yeah, no one is going to go for a 270 fuel unit in 1v1s unless its a guaranteed win. It still works with elite armor because of the resource boosting and the early t4 allowing you to stabilize on the map without any vehicle presence. Most people will get preemptive double AT guns, meaning mediums arent as useful and saving up makes them waste that manpower. Anyway,the point is that saving up 270 fuel in 1v1vs just isnt ever going to be a strong way to play the game no matter what you get as a pay off at the end, and thats probably fine. Basically this. KT is fine. Wouldn't mind HEARING people ideas on buffs that doesn't relate to raw offensive or defensive performance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Grenadier spam - every, single, game. What gives?26 May 2020, 19:58 PM Jump back to quoted post26 May 2020, 18:00 PMVipper If that was the case the would relay at grenadier in tournaments yet as far as I know AsG and Ostru are very common in tournament also. Playing with stock Ostheer units one lucks the pushing power until T4 and even then he might be straggling. Map control, map control, map control. Fast transition into T2 PG and light vehicles. All that is the most relevant for 1v1. But add a single more player and things change a lot. Once OH doesn't have to spread out thin, they can do fine with just Grens and MG42. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5lY9UfGKYM https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD1QsLnpWUVHZXPcg4GDfGLOc7-NDjnKk Haven't watch all games but for what i remember it seems that there are 2 main routes. Grenadier spam into 5 man upgrade or LMG42 Grens with Mg/sniper play when using Jaeger armor. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Assault Grenadier spam - every, single, game. What gives?26 May 2020, 13:47 PM Flavour of the month. Assault Grens are more straight forward and easier to use than Osstruppen strats. In: COH2 Balance