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COH3 probably already has its weapon upgrade system built but I was wondering what you guys thought about upgrades keeping the same weapon but adding a suppressor/sight/automatic variant?

Using COH2 units

Grens Kar98 stock decent at all ranges

add suppressor unit gains camo/camo bonus but loses long range damage
or
Add sight unit gain increased long range damage(maybe pathfinder type crit) but loses short range

Soviet SVT stock decent all ranges

AVT upgrade good short range but heavy drop off at range

or

Add sight unit gain increased long range damage(maybe pathfinder type crit) but loses short range

And so on for each main line, goal being to add different play styles while making it easier to balance Squad as a whole instead of having 1/2 models that do most of the damage. Keep that style to elite units.
Also if you have your own examples post them.

every faction has brain dead tactics like blobbing and Mg spam etc, its not something thats unique to axis. I dont agree with your statement saying axis squads are more forgiving because axis usually have smaller squad sizes, making them more venerable to being wiped.

You need to define what you mean by 1 powerful unit and weaker allied units? what units exactly.

In team games this a is a trend ive noticed, in low level games axis teams win more but in higher level games where you tend to have organised teams, allies are winning more.

The whole weakness to being wiped really only applies to explosives. Grens are a Long range focused squad that gets an LMG upgrade that makes it hard as hell to dislodge without taking loses. Yes they might have a smaller squad but since should be fighting at max range they shouldn't be getting wiped on chase. Therefore infantry VET is easier to preserve compared to Rifleman that are more expensive upfront and cost quite a bit to have them fully upgraded with grenades and bars/zooks.

As for VG, they are designed to be supplanted by Obers which are probably the best AI unit in the game. They are literally Grens on steroids while able to fire on the move. Due to their insane RA the only thing they are truly weak to are explosives. SMG squads can beat them up close but using 2 equally skilled players, the Ober player will cause model drops on assaulting squad or retreat instantly to not risk losing unit.

Also some of the tools are better on Axis infantry compared to Allies due to squad size differences. This also helps reduce micro allowing for worse player to compete with a better player. For example most axis cloak allows some movement without losing cover. For brits to have that commando spawn with just 3 units, airborne Guards only cloak when stationary and have to fire first to even get damage bonus. USF doesn't even have an assaulting cloak unit, all of theirs are long range or AT focused for Recon PARAs.

Bad start for me, lost sniper after only 3 kills like a chump. Pivoted helped ally with penals until my clown car got going, got to wipes and lots of infantry damage. Saw mechanized was down so made both Penals upgrade with PTRS. Was able to shut down luchs pretty quick and pretty much starting satcheling everything I could once I got mother russia.

Got a wipe, with B4, lost KV1 for being overly aggressive. Ally did great job with his IS2 he actually got a few wipes with it. Both allies came in clutch with max range Pen on AT guns. Not a technical game but pretty fun.

Penals get a -2mp reinforce cost bonus when t4 is built, so I wouldnt necessarily call 25mp "expensive to reinforce", but wiped penal squads in late game are indeed best to be replaced by 7men cons

While the number itself isn't expensive the overall package is. They have no way to build cover which most other mainlines can stock or doctrinally. Also they end up with a Target size of .77 which not bad but not great either. Against an Ober squad they will drop quickly while not doing proportional model drops, most will argue that To the last man should help but Obers do to much damage for their Vet1 ability to really help out.

Agree with the 7 man cons - they have better RA, can lay sandbags to further help against Obers, get a cooldown bonus while in cover while receiving exp buff to quickly get VET. Penals also get exp buff but late game your phasing them out so not really useful.

Not super important but i think penals are 290? 270 i think was the price when they had flamer upgrade and worse rifles

Yes, they are 290. In 1v1 it is probably better to get the 2nd engineer to build T1 while 1st caps but if you are playing 3v3 with friends I would suggest building T1, Penal then scout car. You should have enough gas and MP to build the car right when Penal finishes. The other thing is MG spam can shut T1 down pretty easily. IF you see no grens clown car can do good however snipers are more consistent but Micro-intensive