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Exhibit A is a rare occurance. It happens from time to time, but it's rather inconsistent. I'd be curious if you could/can replicate that happening reliably.

It's happened to me half a dozen times in the past week alone. But I just don't have the time/opportunity to try and replicate it. All I know is that it happens when giving a distant ability order, like laying sandbags three control points away, happens when giving move orders to move into a garrison as above, etc. but also I believe is the same bug as instances of units simply not responding to ability requests, such as ordering a mortar squad to fire somewhere in the distance and the squad queuing up the ability but not turning to face the right direction and thus never actually firing. Seems like all one bug, but I could be wrong.

The team weapon entity also doesn't cap.

And that isn't considered a bug?

I never said you don't balance upgrades.

I said you balance the unit itself based on the vanilla, non-vet, non-upgraded version of said unit.

This is objectively the correct approach. It's absolutely unfair for any unit to be inherently inferior at everything before gaining veterancy or some upgrade -- that was my point.

Also, the "win at long range argument" that people love to use for both Ost Grenadiers and OKW Volks is hilarious, given that all Allied infantry suffers no damage and no model losses while closing the distance through an open field without any cover -- a critical design mistake that has persisted since Western Front was released and still persists to this day.

Don't you dare nerf Sturmpioneer survivability unless Volks actually get proper damage output simultaneously... that's all I've got to say about that.

Right now, OKW infantry power is lopsided blatantly towards Sturmpioneers, but that isn't unbalanced, because Volks are trash. Can't just go nerfing Sturms based on other changes happening to resource costs and such.

So I've been noticing this bug quite often, and it's really bad.

Targeting an infantry ability at range, be it placing sandbags on Volksgrenadiers or firing a barrage on the Ostheer mortar squad, sometimes causes the ability to get highlighted as being prepared, but the unit doesn't actually move to the location and start using the ability.

Other times, one model from the unit starts moving towards the location while all other models sit in place, also preventing the ability from triggering.

Have had this bug occur in half a dozen matches just within the last few days.

Now I finally have a replay:

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Just past the half way point in the match is an instance of the bug, where the mortar squad is hiding behind a wall, is ordered to fire a barrage northward, activates the ability as if preparing to use it but never actually tears down and turns to be able to use it, thereby freezing up until I give the order to tear down and move from that spot.

Don't have the time to read through patch notes to see if this has been fixed, so figured I'd just write this post quickly.

This bug is extremely damaging to Ostheer play in particular, since you really need every unit in your combined arms army to play their role as soon as they are ordered to. But I have had it happen on OKW as well, in particular with Volksgrenadiers given the order to build sandbags.

Oh, and here's a screenshot of Volks being ordered to lay sandbags near the flagpole and only having one model actually travel there:



This has happened multiple times on different maps and in different circumstances, so doesn't seem to be related to units being in cover, nor specific to setup units.

I'll never understand the cost argument for OP units.

By that logic, an invincible unit that kills one model per shot is fine as long as it costs 1,000 manpower...