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Thread: ITT: we list lost features lost due to 64bit patch.8 Jun 2021, 14:03 PM Jump back to quoted post8 Jun 2021, 09:12 AMKurobane I played COH 1 more than I did COH 2. The Pathing was superior but it was more work as you had to click directly behind the vehicle numerous times but the pathing worked as expected if you did that. If you clicked far back the pathing would act retarded and would cause the tank to spin. Also putting tanks in a group (CTRL + 1 for example) worked better. In COH 2 it feels like I am a pianist as I have to have all my tanks hotkeyed and manually control each one to get the behavior I expect out of my vehicles. I would take rapid clicking over that any day so COH 1 wins in that regard though not perfect definitely way better. They created the Reverse button in COH 2 specifically to make the rapid clicking required for Reverse easier on less skilled players however it didn't work as advertised. One way they could improve pathing in COH 2 is to make Capture Points on the map not interfere with pathing. Its a simple change really that would go a long way to improving the game. However it seems small things are too much for Relic to handle (such as an option for Detailed/Advanced Tooltips) Took like 15 seconds to do that myself, (would obviously take longer to do the whole game but a day worth of work at most) why can't Relic do it I have no clue. ah yes, i do remember those times. some people actually had shift click spam macros on a mouse button in order to be able to draw a reverse path, but this wasn't 100% fail safe either. a tiny bit too small of a curve radius and the tank would get stuck doing pirouettes... i totally agree that the victory/resource points should be made passable by vehicles to improve the pathing behavior. in fact, i vaguely remember something like this has already been tried (or at least discussed) in one of the preview mods, but i'm not sure what has come out of this. would be nice if it could be revisited for sure. your advanced tool tips look really awesome btw! do these work in automatch as well (like the numerical veterancy description mod)? In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: ITT: we list lost features lost due to 64bit patch.7 Jun 2021, 08:25 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2021, 02:04 AMKurobane The pathing in general in COH 2 is hot garbage compared to COH 1. Don't you love when your vehicle spins around in circles instead of reversing. not to say there couldn't be any further improvements made to coh2's pathing, but it appears you're looking at coh1 through rose-tinted glasses in this respect. for all i remember pathing was just as bad back then as it is now (if not worse), with the added bonus of not having a dedicated reverse. you always had to pray your tank doesn't do a 180 while reversing through perfectly level terrain in the most inconvenient moment; thank god at least this is a thing of the past. In: COH2 Bugs
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback7 Jun 2021, 07:27 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2021, 18:30 PMPip Huh, that's a pretty interesting analysis. I'd never thought about the "actual" performance of the KV-2 with regards to AT, in comparison to its' ostensibly "intended" (and logical) performance. DO you think it warrants any changes? that's a good question, tbh. if you're taking the base performance as the benchmark, i'd say the kv-2 is quite a bit better than the is-2, considering it has comparable AT and much better AI capabilities. however, the is-2 scales much better with veterancy in terms of firepower as the kv-2 doesn't get the 30% reload bonus other heavies do. the extra 160 HP are nice for sure, but this is arguably not not as valuable as the ROF and range boost of the is-2. hence, i think the better base performance together with worse scaling is a pretty good trade-off already and no changes are required imho. the kv-2 starts stronger, but comes a bit later than the is-2, which in turn has ample time to close the gap through veterancy (assuming it does require a CP less?). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback6 Jun 2021, 12:58 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2021, 12:08 PMKatitof Neither IS nor KV will be trying to facetank frontally in a slugfest against KT, JT or ele and both do alright against rear armor. Its the vet2ost P4/OKW P4, panthers and tigers where you'll see most clearly performance game. I don't even know why I need to say it. KV-2 CAN engage tanks, it CAN beat tiger or panther with lucky RNG, but its nowhere near IS-2 in reliability and efficiency against heavier armor. It is vastly superior vs infantry and sufficient vs meds. No one said either tank would frontally engage a Jagdtiger and expect to come out on top. The point I've been trying to illustrate is that, contrary to what you've claimed earlier, the KV-2 is very much capable of engaging heavily armored tanks - even more so than the IS-2 thanks to the innate deflection damage. Against lighter armor, such as a Panther or Vet Pz.IV, both tanks are actually pretty much equal in terms of AT. The graph below shows this: This is the probability distribution for both the IS-2 (blue) and KV-2 (orange) to kill a Pz.IV, Panther and Tiger Ace at 40 m, assuming all shots hit for the sake of simplicity (The Ace is chosen solely for illustrative purposes. It as it has the same armor of the regular Tiger, but greater HP pool and, thus, the curves in the plot overlap less). You can clearly see that against the more lightly armored Pz.IV the IS-2 has a slight edge as it is guaranteed to pen the target every time and every shot deals the full amount of damage. However, the lower the chance to penetrate gets due to higher armor the contribution of deflection damage gets greater and the KV-2 starts to deal more DPM than the IS-2. Against a vanilla Panther both tanks are already roughly equal in terms of T2K and against anything heavier the KV-2 is superior (if only slightly). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback6 Jun 2021, 11:57 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2021, 11:42 AMKatitof Massive reload time. yeah, about 50% higher reload, but also 50% greater base damage. and 50% deflection damage on every non-penetrating hit, which no other comparable tank has. the counter-intuitive thing about the kv-2 is that the deflection damage makes it perform better than other heavies the more armor the target has. in fact, the kv-2 is killing a tiger faster than an is-2 would, despite having slower reload and lower pen. the difference is even more pronounced against ultra heavy armor like the kt or jagdtiger. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback6 Jun 2021, 11:10 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2021, 10:26 AMKatitof Its vastly inferior in AT. It can't fight effectively anything larger then P4. Deflection damage In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback6 Jun 2021, 09:05 AM Jump back to quoted post6 Jun 2021, 00:27 AMZapartos So I was reading the patch changes all heavy tanks seem to come at CP 11 now except for KV2? Is this intended? Intended, i'd say. the KV-2 is a bit more potent than the IS-2 in both AI and AT duties, which justifies the slightly higher CP requirement. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: End of Master League Patreon system/ major tourney series.2 Jun 2021, 19:38 PM tough news and sad to hear ML is coming to a close! for me this was probably the best and most entertaining series since SNF, but i guess everything good has to end some day. big thanks and kudos to A_E and everyone else involved for making these awesome tourneys happen! hope gcs3 is still on the horizon, though? In: Lobby
Thread: 8 wins in a row with Ostheer :)2 Jun 2021, 11:48 AM congrats! In: COH2 Central
Thread: No more red build indicators?1 Jun 2021, 02:45 AM afaik, this 'feature' came with the 64 bit version. and since it was pointed out as a bug in the respective beta feedback thread (maybe even fixed? can't remember) and still introduced in the final version, along with a couple of other bugs that had already been fixed during the beta, i guess this is not intentional. still a minor issue i'd say, though i'd welcome to see the red outline being brought back if possible. In: COH2 Bugs