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Thread: Replace Tiger Ace with King Tiger for elite troops?29 Dec 2018, 21:00 PM IMO the whole immediately vet3 concept is counterintuitive to the game design too. In effect it has no veterancy, like a bunker. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Replace Tiger Ace with King Tiger for elite troops?28 Dec 2018, 16:11 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 15:24 PMKatitof In case you missed all the posts in this and previous threads about TA, you are NOT supposed to preserve it. You are supposed to call it in to either seal the game or make a last stand. If you want to preserve it, you want normal tiger, not TA. And as I told you before, I understand the mechanic just fine. I just think it works badly in practice and should be ditched. If your view is bad mechanics should be kept for the sake of it, then we just disagree. This mechanic also existed in CoH1 where the King Tiger would drain your resources for 10 minutes (don't remember exactly) and then they would return to normal again. I believe it was -100 manpower for five minutes. That mechanic functionally split the cost in half: you'd pay a chunk of manpower up front, and a chunk of manpower as a deficit. However, it was timed, not tied to the vehicle's survival. That'd work fine for the Tiger Ace. The player that builds it isn't penalized for preserving it and the opponent isn't penalised for destroying it. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Replace Tiger Ace with King Tiger for elite troops?28 Dec 2018, 15:21 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 15:16 PMLeOverlord In this case, if you want the penalty to be removed, then remove the veterancy and just let it earn veterancy easier. Or even better, give it the ability to disembark the crew for repairs just like USF I don't mind it being a Vet 3 tank on call-in. I don't mind it being a one-off call-in either. They're both interesting unique mechanics that work quite well. The resource penalty, however, is a failed mechanic that's been progressively scaled back to the point where the Tiger Ace even has a fuel cost now. They should just abandon it already and whack the cost up to 800 MP 300 FU or whatever the TA's really worth. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Replace Tiger Ace with King Tiger for elite troops?28 Dec 2018, 15:11 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 15:04 PMLeOverlord Why should they remove it? You get a powerful vet 3 heavy tank. What do you want? Getting it at 0CP and cost set to 150 manpower and 5 fuel? You get a strong unit, you get punished for it, if you don't want it, don't field it. Not to mention that Ost has 3 choices for heavy tanks. Tiger Ace, Tiger and Elefant. Because a unit that penalizes you for preserving it is counterintuitive and flies against the design of the rest of the game. Just raise the price to what the Tiger Ace is actually worth. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Increase light jaegars price27 Dec 2018, 19:38 PM Manpower cost to 280 MP, G43 upgrade to 60 munitions. Moved to CP0, buildable from OKW's headquarters building. G43 upgrade gated behind the first set-up truck, like Volks STGs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW's 221 is too weak for its 20 fuel cost27 Dec 2018, 13:27 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2018, 13:01 PMVipper Special Weapons Regiment is completely irrelevant. You balance a game by giving roles to units and 221 can easily have the role of countering cars and snipers. If you can come up with better role feel free to post it. Then that's could, not should. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW's 221 is too weak for its 20 fuel cost27 Dec 2018, 12:30 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2018, 11:52 AMVipper Why shouldn't be? What role would want it have? OKW having a doctrinal counter to m3/UC/WC51 and to snipers makes perfect sense. 'why not' is not how you balance a game. Putting the counter to a non-doctrinal problem in a commander is how you create problems like Special Weapons Regiment. Either OKW and OST have adequate nondoctrinal tools to fight the M3, or they don't. If they don't, their tools need improving. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW's 221 is too weak for its 20 fuel cost27 Dec 2018, 11:37 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2018, 11:32 AMVipper And this bring back to my point. 221 should be balanced as a counter to cars and sniper and if that interferes with 223 balance, they should simply be different units. Why should it be an armoured car counter? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [UKF] Change Sapper Recovery Squad to Passive Upgrade27 Dec 2018, 11:26 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Dec 2018, 15:03 PMaddvaluejack But without the technology building (I thought this should be T1 not T2), why would I need a sapper squad? UKF have no access to mortar pit or AEC without T1. Your headquarters building is T0. The confusion arises because OST and SOV tend to build T1 or T2 straight away. In: Lobby
Thread: OKW's 221 is too weak for its 20 fuel cost27 Dec 2018, 11:22 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2018, 10:13 AMVipper 221 clearly under performs for cost no matter how much you want to put on it. I suppose the difference is you're looking at the 221 and 223 as two separate units. I see them like Obersoldaten: they in effect cost 340 MP 90ish MU, but you only have to pay the manpower to build them. The Obersoldaten unit without its MG34 is hardly worth 340 MP, let alone the old 400, but it's still useful. Once you've paid the rest of the cost for its MG34, it leaps up to full effectiveness. It's the same with Rangers: naked Rangers just aren't anything to write home about. You don't build a 221 to keep as a 221: you build it to provide some helpful fire support before it turns into a 223. You could easily have the 223 as a 300 MP 30 FU unit you can only build after upgrading an HQ, and it would end the 221 complaining. But it'd be an effective nerf to the unit. In: COH2 Balance