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Thread: Riflemen Sandbags12 Mar 2018, 19:03 PM Rear echelon are too busy repairing tanks and building bases to possibly throw down cover.... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Handheld AT solution.12 Mar 2018, 03:01 AM Sturms role to fight infantry is already limited to the early stages of the game, when they start losing effectiveness against infantry is about the time that they are needed for AT/sweeping and repairs. Around the time sturms start to lose impact is when volks hit their stride so pushing sturms to other duties isnt an issue. Sturms have alot of roles, but not REALLY all at once. Repairs can be covered by a building, they get outpaced for fighting and since AT amd sweeping are exclusive its up to the player to decide if they want hip fire rockets or to fear no mines. I dont agree with double duty because it makes less choice (plus 4 man squad with 50% ai and a slew of munitions is just asking for whine threads about how easily munitions can go to waste) Decisions are GOOD Do it all units are not In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Riflemen Sandbags10 Mar 2018, 23:14 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Mar 2018, 21:46 PMmondeogaming1 first of all riflemen was made not only to be the strognerst USF power but for their versatility riflemen and shemran were desight to be versatile riflemen bye bye smoke bye bye defense state only grenade and AT nade at least give them sandbags to not get supressed and you think its well balanced UFK 2 FREAKING LMGS behind heavy cover again if the enemy is in heavy cover and you move to be aggresive you will always lose so riflemen will always lose for exable vs grenadiers and thats bull plus volks you think they are worst than riflemen you think so frekaing 250 manpower with stgs field upgrade behind cover getting vet and sturms around with kuble cant break that stupid line and if you are unliky all shots from riflemen will bounce to kuble armor Firstly, lmgs cant fire on the move, and tommys are disadvantaged out of cover. Being behind cover and losing 40-50% models firing weapons (im not going to do the math for dps) if you are moving makes for DEFENSIVE infantry, this is VERY different from OFFENSIVE infantry, polar opposites even. Secondly you are speaking as if i am saying tommies and volks are fine, i dont think they are so you can fuck right off with that whole "reasoning" Thirdly im not even sure what the DPS of tommies slinging mgs has to do with rifles building sandbags as a balance argument is supposed to do, they dont face eachother and have different roles. Rifles are king of combat, they used to be king of combat AND utility but bad players focusing only on their mobile firepower helped decide that being able to face down almost everything head on and being able to smoke anything that they couldnt was a bad design decision. Volks can build cover because sturms dont. Sturms assault then when their impact has lessened fall to auxiliary roles like sweeping or AT or building obstacles or repairing, they have enough jobs as it is. Rifles DONT lose potency nor do they have 15 other jobs to do. If you take away one of REs job because bad players want a do it all unit to spam you reduce the depth and diversity of the game And hell if you are so uppity about volks having sandbags why not make a thread about them losing it? Id support stripping them of it (maybe MAYBE even the faust) when they get STGs just so there IS more diversity because no drawback upgrades are bad design- just like no drawback infantry is. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Riflemen Sandbags10 Mar 2018, 21:01 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2018, 22:38 PMmondeogaming1 This is the whole point no utility for riflemen and if my riflemen are hurt i need them to defend i want to make sure they are cover and if i dotn have RE around i cant protect them and you think IS and volks havign sandbags its a good idea riflemen cost 280 manpower and have the less versatility as other core main lien infrantry allthow all other main line infrantry at least have one type of defense If ONLY there was a way you could make your riflemen not hurt, maybe on field, hell make it mobile so its adaptive... Something like idk the t0 ambulance. If your RE are not availible enough BUILD ANOTHER like the ost and the sov and tge brits do when they need to sweep and repair tanks, keep in mind that 2/3 of those options NEVER get a 5th man nor can sling AT aswell. When in enemy territory you SHOULD be at a disadvantage, you SHOULD be using the environment not being able to fortify your way to the enemy. The brits get sandbags because unlike the usf they are disadvantaged on the move. Usf pay 280 for their punching power not their utility. Theres no reason for them to have sandbags because it just reinforces shitty attack nove single unit tactics from shitty players and only shitty players could POSSIBLY think that a single do it all unit is in anyways a good balance choice. Diversity makes a good game, not spamming a single unit to fight infantry, to fight tanks, to build defences. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Riflemen Sandbags9 Mar 2018, 22:15 PM I dont want rifle sandbags. I want a reason to build fighting puts and RE not more reason only to spam rifles all game every game. Reduce the price of the fighting pit and add it back on the MG upgrade. Then RE can make all round green cover. Its unique, its not just boring old sandbags In: COH2 Balance
Thread: The raketenwerfer.9 Mar 2018, 22:12 PM I want it to focus on its ambush capabilities instead of its cheesy creep attack abilities. Give it full range when cloaked and in friendly territory. Then it can function as a defensive AT gun and not as a chase/hunt unit. Fixing crew spread is a must as well. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Mortars/Indirect have broken the game9 Mar 2018, 22:08 PM Plus the leig has smoke now, so if you somehow use your SUPPORT weapon to SUPPORT your infantry (ive yet to see an mg pinning enemies through smoke) you can - and i know when we talk about okw this is extremely radical- use a combined force to attack the enemy. Volks have flame nades, they have 2 commanders with nade volleys, they have non doc STGs. A maxim that cant shoot (hell even ine that CAN shoot) isnt much of a threat at all. And its not like a faust where you spend the resources and ots gone if you dont manage to kill the enemy, the leig will ALSO help against every other MG you face, it will help against every AT gun, every mortar and every single squad of infantry that decides to stand still for a moment. And when you lose it (if you do) it can add 5 fuel (woooo) towards your next tank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Mortars/Indirect have broken the game9 Mar 2018, 03:01 AM Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2018, 16:55 PMLago Personally I'd like to see all indirect weapons reworked to work the same way as howitzers do: remove their basic attack and buff their barrage to compensate. Mortars should be strong against static defences (both emplacements and camping infantry) but their current direct targeting of infantry squads makes them punish moving squads equally. This is a change i support. Units with no/minimal micro but can wipe based on a dice roll is just bad. Barrages should be where its at. However: with that big of a cut in performance i think they should probably be able to flee with a single model same as the 120mm (who tbh shouldnt be able to) but thats just gravy to me. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Handheld AT solution.8 Mar 2018, 19:51 PM To releave some of the sturms duties we could try making one of the trucks repair... Oh wait In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer in a Nutshell5 Mar 2018, 19:09 PM Ost will find themselves needing that 150mp and 60mu to stand against rifles, penals and tommies Wouldnt matter if OKW had the KT in their t0 available from go if they get broken by t70s long before they get enough resources together for it In: COH2 Balance