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Thread: How are Jäger Light Infantry OP?29 Dec 2018, 12:23 PM What magnifies any issues with JLI is how strong overwatch other abilities are. Since is far less the scavenger doctrine being used. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Rework Penals29 Dec 2018, 12:19 PM The topic of this thread is Penal, lets move away from conscripts and maxim. This unit could easily receive minor buffs if when penal power level is decrease Soviet prove to be weak. Another issue with Penal are the very strong offensive vet bonuses their receive combined with their very strong base stats. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tiger Ace Poll.29 Dec 2018, 11:35 AM My suggestion about Tiger ace is the following: Rename to "Panzer ACE" CP move to around 7 Now call-in a Stug-E limited to 1, with some extra abilities like a barrage or AP/HE rounds. When stug-E reaches certain vet (1-2?) it can be refitted for Stug-G, with some extra abilities like AP/HE rounds. When Stug-G reaches certain vet level (1-2?) and CP it can be refitted for Tiger. If one want to take it further one could refit even the Tiger for a KT (although not necessary). If the unit is lost it can be called in again as the vehicle it was when it was killed. This design provide a unit that is useful in most level of the game while allowing to scale. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rework Penals29 Dec 2018, 09:45 AM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 23:52 PMWiderstreit - SVT-40-upgrade for AI (2*SVT-40 perform like G43 of Grens, blueprint for current penal-gun) Giving 2 weapon is not a good solution imo because that makes units lose less DPS when they lose model. An SVT upgrade and or even the G43 upgrade should provide weapon for all the squad. Those weapon of coarse should be weaker. Especially in the case of penals one could test giving them +3 plus another +3 at certain tech level. Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 23:52 PMWiderstreit - DP-28-upgrade with T4 Lmg in 6 men squad is also problematic for the same reason and that goes for osttrouppen to. Replacing all the mosin with a better version or giving them SVTs with good mid DPS so that optimum range is mid is better solution. About Penals, they where in bad spot when the got patched for the first time and there allot of negative feedback about them. That is why the got nerfed in nearly every patch after that. Imo they should have simply been redesigned. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price28 Dec 2018, 20:03 PM There is actually a away to test how many kills can be attributed to g43 using cheat mod and the health monitor. When the there is critical kill the weapon will do damage above the normal 16. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW's 221 is too weak for its 20 fuel cost28 Dec 2018, 12:50 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 12:33 PMelchino7 Non LMG Obers are not a cost effective unit, specially for timing. The point of the unit is to upgrade it as soon as possible and making them survive till they hit vet 2. You don't use Obers without LMG. You don't make the 221, just for the sake of playing with it without upgrading it. 221 is a sniper counter and mobile non bleeding unit early game. A Kubel lite. The whole point of the unit is not been another shock fighting unit rather than an utility one. Remember how you keep bringing the point of how "tracking" is so good because it reveals units in the minimap? Well, thats also one of the roles of 223. No one ask here for the IR HT to get improved fighting capabilities. If the unit doesn't pay for itself through it's utility, don't just improve it's fighting capabilities. I'll rather see any of the following things before changing it's firepower: -5f and/or some mp moved from 221 to 223. -Making medkits cheaper or even free with a long 2/3 min cd. -Playing with the values of vet gain so people can use the Riegel mine. I would rather have the 221 redesigned as counter to cars and snipers with something like less 75% DPS but more penetration and HP to 320. Price should probably be around 180-200 with 5-10 fuel cost since one should be able to trade it for killing a sniper, with a pop down to 3-2. As for the 223 in the current price (320/30!!!) is far less cost efficient that 222 and far less cost efficient than the opel. It should simply be a separate vehicle or weaker and cheaper to upgrade. Or the opel mechanism could be replaced with a timed version of the "siphon" mechanism allowing more counter play. The 221 could easily fill the role of a counter to cars and then 222 could become more expensive and tougher serving a soft counter to light tanks. (Remember when you argued that making the 221 available to ostheer would be problematic because all upgrade cost mu and not fuel/manpower? Seem that this rule no longer applies). On Ober analogy In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infiltration Troops28 Dec 2018, 08:54 AM Jump back to quoted post28 Dec 2018, 06:10 AMaddvaluejack One question here: Do all infiltration units have a higher decapturing rate? No as far as I can remember but I did not open the editor to check. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Increase light jaegars price28 Dec 2018, 08:51 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2018, 19:38 PMLago Manpower cost to 280 MP, G43 upgrade to 60 munitions. Moved to CP0, buildable from OKW's headquarters building. G43 upgrade gated behind the first set-up truck, like Volks STGs. I am not sure if that is enough. I would rather also see: 1) DPS of the K98 becoming flat at round 10 range Reason: So that the unit become vulnerable to QCQ combat 2) First strike bonus moved to veterancy Reason: Unit should start with less of punch and scale 3) A veterancy overhaul Reason: The unit gets allot of received accuracy bonus 4) The synergy of "for the furtherland" and JLI. Reason: JLI using sprint and F.T.F. are moving extremely fast and the accuracy bonuses from fisrt strike and F.T.F are very high. I am not even sure if the infiltration deployment should be removed since they are a useful tool vs snipers. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW's 221 is too weak for its 20 fuel cost28 Dec 2018, 01:09 AM Jump back to quoted post27 Dec 2018, 20:06 PMelchino7 If you want to rework Soviets (good luck with that), make another thread about it. 221 is simple the Obers of the vehicles. It's not meant to stay vanilla and the fuel upgrade is just there as a stopgap. I wouldn't buff the performance, but would play by moving around the cost to build and the cost to upgrade. Take 5f from it and move it to the upgrade. If the unit is not getting vet reasonable, improve the range/speed of the shared vet. Want to see the performance when people get access to riegels. I don't see the Obers/221 analogy. LMG obers are decent fighting unit. 223 is far less cost efficient than the 222 since it is missing a 20 mm gun while being more expensive. Thus as a fighting unit the 223 is also overpriced. It has additional utility but that does not change that fact that as fighting unit it is UP. In addition it is the only(?) vehicle that its upgrade needs fuel and manpower instead of munition. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Infiltration Troops28 Dec 2018, 00:57 AM I am not a big fan of removing things from the game unless they have been proven not to work. In the case of infiltration unit (which are close to airdropped units) and especially storm troopers from encirclement, I would first try another approach. The units become available in 2 ways: 1) Able to be built from HQ for the price they have been balanced (with or without tech). 2) Able to spawned but with a high premium and long cool down. These tools could prove enough to "fix" these units while keeping the mechanism. That imo could solve In: COH2 Balance