So... Instead of turing on game and spending 15mins for your own tests, you choose to stay whole day on the forum to argue.
It says much about your trolling level
So you admit you lied then?
Damn! Aussie and Clocky, just get a room!
All Clock want is some proofs from Aussie to back up his results. I haven't seen for once that Clock calls you a liar, AustralianMagic, he just want some proofs! So can you at least give him a video showing your testing? That would have solve this problem 9-reply earlier!
About the topic, it basically ends 30-reply earlier when most people agree that only thing needs to be look at is the Schwerer's AA capability! You guys are, AGAIN, lengthening the discussion with nothing new! If there isn't anything new then please, can a moderator close this topic!?
He won't post it because he doesn't have it, he doesn't have it because he didn't do it. He lied because he appears to be an allied fan boy and for some reason he thought he could get away with it lying about a test on a balance forum?
I don't need to post anything becasue I have a long story of posting screens and videos for prooving something and none of them was faked (tho many tried to say that but in the end they cried in a corner).
My god your EGO.....Why should anybody take anyone on an internet forum at there word? And even if you do have a history of posting screens etc (as you say?) that does not give you a free pass.
For the 100th time you silly little boy, if you make a balance suggestion based on a "test" then post the replay proving your so called "results".That is the most BASIC rule of thumb for such experiments, how do you not understand this??????
So far you have not done so, therefore by no stretch of the imagination it is pretty clear to EVERYONE that you are lying, yes lying, telling untruths, and porky pies.
Again please feel free to post the proof and prove us wrong, I dare not hold my breath.........
You said I lied, so it means you did you own tests so why didnt you post video of them?
That's it. Sorry but I don't have time to spare for trolls
Why would that mean I did my own tests?
It would appear that you dont have proof to your test, or that you never did a test?
Word to the wise, have proof in future if you are going to make "factual" statements about tests on a balance forum, or else you will never be taken seriously.
You have made yourself look very silly and foolish today, try not to do so tomorrow.
All the best sir!
Yes, becasue I work in court
I posted results. It's your problem that you don't trust me and it's up to you to prove I'm wrong.
Now that you said I lie, I have to ask you for proof for that. You know, if you did your tests and figured out I lied, why didn't you post results as a proof for my lies?
Its not that I don't trust you, its that your apparent results are totally useless without proof?
Do you not understand how experiments work?
Again let me just reiterate, if you are going to make "factual statements" about "test" you have done on a balance forum you need to post a replay with the proof. Otherwise your results are simply worthless and absolutely nobody can believe you......
As would appear to be the case in this instance. Stop trying to deflect and dodge with silly emojis
Why? Becasue I have made a statement and you are saying that maybe it's not true, so it's up to you to prove that I'm lying, not up to me to prove I'm syaing truth.
I did post the results. But I don't find making a video worth for such thread since everyone who plays the game know how Scherwer and Quad act versus planes.
Apparntly you don't know.
What do you think this is a High Court Trial??
It would appear to me that you did not actually test this, that you simply made it all up to support your views. Otherwise you would post your results with proof, no question.
All I ask is that in future please don't lie, its toxic. Hell maybe now you can actually do the tests and have the proof, I hope you do it would look great!
Then go on, and do it.
I done it numbers of times and I don't need to do it anymore to satisfy you.
But why would I do it? I have not made any statement on wanting to or already having done a test.
You apparently already have, you are the person making the "factual statements" on YOUR
Why don't you simply post the results? I just don't understand why you don't post it, if you did indeed do the tests as you said you did?
If you have not done the tests that is perfectly fine man, just dont make false statements on a balance threads backed up with a lie. It just spreads toxic waste.......
My word is a proof.
No its not, it never has or will be. What a lovely world it would be if everyone was taken at their word.
If you are going to make factual statements about balance etc and want people to believe your results, then just post them? What is the problem here?
Would that not be the easy part after spending something like 30 - 60 mins doing the test?
While it is true.
But because yiy are so axis biased I had to make a test.
Schwerer vs P47 attacking KT
I - 1 (plane) killed after first wave.
II - 1 killed after third wave.
III - none
IV - 1 killed after first wave.
V - 1 killed after first wave, 1 killed after second wave.
VI - 1 killed after second wave.
VII - 1 killed after second wave.
VIII - 2 killed after second wave
And this is just 1 Schwerer. Imagine 2v2 game with 2 Schwerer and 4 flak bases guns.
Now, let's take a look at Quad.
Quad vs JU loiter attacking IS2
I - 1 killed after second wave.
II - None killed (IS2 killed after second wave and Quad killed during third )
III - 1 killed after third wave.
IV - None killed.
V - 1 killed after first wave.
VI - 1 killed after second wave.
VII - none killed.
VIII - 1 killed after second wave.
So, tell me one more time that Schwerer does nothing against planes and does not prevent frm using air abilities.
While I commend your apparent effort at testing this, it is absolutely unequivocally useless without proof?! You don't even mention the map used, the area the P47 and Stuka strafes were called in on said map etc............
Are we supposed to just take your word for it?
Then check the one from goliath commander.
Major recon? Honestly.. I've used it like 3-4 times in my 2000 hours. P47? Strafes? Drops? What the hell? Axis dont have them? Or What? JU loiter, unkillable supply drops, Sector Assault. P47 and Sturmovnik cry in corner when compare to Axis' abilities.
Bombing run? 4x50kg bomb, more expensive, still way worse than 1x50kg dive bomb.
Imagine of Ostheer couldn't use JU or Recon loiters, just because I made a T4 tech for SU. The amount of salt would be insane.
Because Schwerer shoots down every allied plane that dares take to the skies...............
Adding a cost to OKW t4 to get its gun? Fair enough but let me ask you this. If you lose Major/LT/Cpt can you still make units from those tiers?
If Schwerer dies, T4 dies it is risk/reward for brazen placement.You wan to add cost then sure, but add full cost to replacing each of the USF officers also inc fuel cost, after all we can't have any "special snowflakes"