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Thread: OH recent buffs. Justification?19 Oct 2015, 07:14 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Oct 2015, 05:43 AMtigerhunter ost is fine.But I am totally agreeing with that sov has had the problem since it was restructured Show me replays of you defeating lategame usf and ukf infantry with ost infantry.They stand no chance.Just slaughtered like sheep. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OH recent buffs. Justification?19 Oct 2015, 05:38 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2015, 19:05 PMKatitof I'd like to see aaa and ostherlitz locked down in the same room for the night with a single wooden plank in the middle of it. Snide remarks don't change anything. Wehrmacht= No lategame infantry,no light armor,useless overpriced medium tank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OH recent buffs. Justification?18 Oct 2015, 18:24 PM Hahahaha.Weakest faction right now.Has no lategame infantry. No light vehicle.Useless overpriced medium tank. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: grenadier/panzergrenadier lack of survivability 18 Oct 2015, 07:57 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2015, 07:51 AMMuxsus Grens with mortar and MG support can definitely hold their own against infantry sections, and with some clever play you can defeat a Rifleman force too (example: 3 rifles smoke an mg, close in, get into close comabt with Pgrens with a predictable result). Also note that Pgrens are not meant for frontline engagements. They are flanking troops that do really well at medium range. Think of them as more durable Fallschirmjagers (which are hardly defenseless against Allied infantry) that are worse at long range but the same at mid and close, and use them as such. In the late game you can't.You can hold back once or twice,but eventually they will break through.Mgs are less and less effective as vetted infantry dodge bullets.The scenario ur talking about works in early and mid game max.In lategame after smoke rifles getting close will still overwhelm pzgrenadiers due to ridiculous vet and 5 men. What you are essentially saying that axis infantry requires perfect micro and luck against just plain frontal blob attack of allied infantry EVERYTIME every engagement lategame just to defend themselves and prevent themselves from being wiped out,forget any basis of competitiveness which only proves my point. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: grenadier/panzergrenadier lack of survivability 18 Oct 2015, 07:37 AM Jump back to quoted post18 Oct 2015, 06:44 AMMuxsus You just don't fight ukf and usf infantry with grens alone, it's meant to be like that. Wehrmacht has really good team weapons that make probably the best combined arms of all the factions. That's asymmetric balance, the very same reason for USF not having a KT (well, yet). Lategame neither grens nor pzgrens nor support weapons are able to hold back ukf and usf infantry,assyemetric balance is just an excuse for allied players now.There is no assymetry in armor for allies anymore with pershing and ukf armor,their armor being cheaper as it is. Grens and pzgrens are defenceless lategame vs usf and ukf infantry,experiencing this repeatedly firsthand. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: grenadier/panzergrenadier lack of survivability 17 Oct 2015, 10:55 AM Jump back to quoted post17 Oct 2015, 10:42 AMBananenheld So Cons Arent worse than grens like some1 stated? Conscripts have more survivability by far.And my point was the helplessness of wehr infantry lategame vs usf and uk infantry,against whom they are slaughtered like sheep after veterancy changes and now reinforcement for IS. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: grenadier/panzergrenadier lack of survivability 17 Oct 2015, 07:09 AM Jump back to quoted post16 Oct 2015, 16:07 PMMuxsus Grens have the best infantry snare (having the most range and pen), best (arguably) core infantry grenade, and an lmg upgrade, all for zero cost since you don't have to sidetech the upgrades. They don't really need to be the best squad in terms of raw combat effectiveness. Ask any Sov player if he wants to trade Cons for Grens and he will say yes, unless ppsh doctrine. It's the utility of Grens that makes them valuable, not their glorious lmg blobs of the past. So basically grenadiers and panzergrenadiers need to remain defenceless against usf and UK infantry lategame is what you are saying? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: grenadier/panzergrenadier lack of survivability 16 Oct 2015, 15:06 PM Wehrmacht infantry is unplayable lategame,its sad but true.Both LMG grens and panzergrenadiers are simply unable to resist brit or us infantry even on the defense lategame.Just gets rolled effortlessly. The other 2 problems with wehrmacht are redundant light vehicles. And finally overpriced and ineffective panzer 4. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Fallschrimjagers need love! 21 Jul 2015, 13:36 PM What should be done. Keep spawning price same due to unique entry. Reduce reinforcement cost to 35.Because once entry cost is paid no point in having extra reinforcement cost.Obers are underperforming pricewise nowadays,and i often see my OKW teammates getting rolled up by massed enemy infantry blobs particularly 1919 blob or guards unless i provide them constant mg42 support.Just my observation. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Jason Lee18 Jul 2015, 10:43 AM The messiah. In: Fan Clubs

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