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Best Tanks and Worst Tanks to use in v1

28 Aug 2018, 17:04 PM
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So I have been playing this game for some time and noticed most people dont use even half of the tanks present in each faction.
Example: As the Germans its a terrible idea to go for a panther in a 1v1. the fuel cost and lack of anti infantry make it good agianst t34s shermans and cromwells as well as rushing a lone su85 jackson and firefly. However the time spent during your saving up for a panther will be the time when the enemy has tank superiority as i call it, when he has the initiative and as such will likely take a lot of your territory witch limits your fuel and muni supplies further increasing the time required to get a panther.
Example 2: As the Russians going for the t34 85 is costly and by the time you get it you could have got yourself an IS2 AND rushed a t70. The t3485 is good but the time to get it is horrendously bad.
Example 2 PS: The Same goes for the American sherman easy 8.
Example 3: The Valentine. Just gonna say Why the f*** would you build that. Its terrible.
I would like to know what do you guys think of these tanks and to tell me please what are the best tanks to use in a 1v1 and witch are also a waste of time and resources. (what do you think of the tiger) Sorry fro my bad writing skilles.
28 Aug 2018, 18:36 PM
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Comet: poo
76 sherman: poo
is2: poo
ele: poo
ost panther: poo
king tiger: Uber poo
tiger: pretty alright tbh
28 Aug 2018, 18:46 PM
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Moved from COH2 Balance to COH2 Gameplay
28 Aug 2018, 19:12 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2018, 18:36 PMTobis
Comet: poo
76 sherman: poo
is2: poo
ele: poo
ost panther: poo
king tiger: Uber poo
tiger: pretty alright tbh


What about the legendary jadgtiger rush :snfBarton:
28 Aug 2018, 19:17 PM
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What about the legendary jadgtiger rush :snfBarton:

Obligatory "JT is a TD and not a tank REEEEEEEEE"
28 Aug 2018, 19:19 PM
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There's a lot of things to consider here when you want "best to worst". There's cost vs efficiency, there's micro requirement, doctrinal factors etc. Since there wasn't a specific category given here aside from 1v1 I'll just assume "best overall tank". List categories are from best to worst overall.

Stock medium tanks: Can engage both infantry and armor and instill threat. Available without commanders.

M4A3 Sherman
OKW P4
T34/76
Ostheer P4
Cromwell

Advanced/Doctrinal mediums: Can engage both infantry and armor and instill threat.

T34/85
M4A3E8 (Easy 8)
Panther (Both variants)
76 Sherman (Both variants)
Comet

Heavy tanks: Engages both armor and infantry and able to bounce/soak damage.

Pershing
Tiger 1 (Ace included)
KV-1
Churchill
IS2
Tiger 2
KV-8
Crocodile
KV-2

Tank destroyers: Engages armor ONLY with reliablity. These are all good in their own ways and completely viable currently, so take this list with a grain of salt.

Jackson
Su85
Stug G
JP4
Firefly

Heavy tank destroyers: When engaging armor.

Jagdtiger
Elephant (although an arguement can be made for this to be 1st as it carries target weak point)
ISU-152

Heavy tank destroyers: When engaging infantry.

ISU-152
Jagdtiger
Elephant <- :rofl:

Light tanks: Engages mainly infantry and occasionally other lights.

T70
Luchs
Stuart
Valentine

Not making a list for armored cars, AI mediums or include the brummbar anywhere. Armored cars are all decent, AI tanks are mostly decent and the brummbar is great/borderline requires nerf.
28 Aug 2018, 19:31 PM
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Light tanks: Engages mainly infantry and occasionally other lights.

T70
Luchs
Stuart

Not making a list for armored cars, AI mediums or include the brummbar anywhere. Armored cars are all decent, AI tanks are mostly decent and the brummbar is great/borderline requires nerf.


U forgot the most glorious, best, fear striking Light Tank. The Valentine


Obligatory "JT is a TD and not a tank REEEEEEEEE"


The TD for a JT stands for Total Deadweight.
28 Aug 2018, 20:57 PM
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The TD for a JT stands for Total Deadweight.

TD = Tremendously Destructive (to your chances of winning...?)
28 Aug 2018, 21:55 PM
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EZ PZ:

Worst tanks: JT/Elephant. You'll never see them on 99.9% of the games.

Best tanks: light ones. T70/P2. If you want to add some weight OKW PIV=USF M4A3 followed by T3485s.
28 Aug 2018, 23:30 PM
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TD = Tremendously Destructive (to your chances of winning...?)


I forgot which 2v2 game but I remember watching someone call in a JT on Crossing. They surrendered about 30 seconds after it was called in due to it being circle strafed by mediums immediately.

28 Aug 2018, 23:37 PM
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I forgot which 2v2 game but I remember watching someone call in a JT on Crossing. They surrendered about 30 seconds after it was called in due to it being circle strafed by mediums immediately.



It is similar to KT. You can use it if you need firepower. But it won't win a game by itself. These are solid units, but not "I win" buttons. In the example of JT, you can't really circle strafe it to death if there are paks or raketens set up behind it.

Of course, in case of 1v1 there is never enough armour on the opposing side for JT to work.
29 Aug 2018, 01:17 AM
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U forgot the most glorious, best, fear striking Light Tank. The Valentine

If you're counting that as a light tank it's pretty alright.

Crushes for daysssss.
29 Aug 2018, 03:40 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Aug 2018, 18:36 PMTobis
Comet: poo
76 sherman: poo
is2: poo
ele: poo
ost panther: poo
king tiger: Uber poo
tiger: pretty alright tbh

Accurate.

In all honesty making a bunch of mediums and TDs seems to be the best 1v1 strategy.

Obligatory "JT is a TD and not a tank REEEEEEEEE"

Lol

jump backJump back to quoted post29 Aug 2018, 01:17 AMTobis

If you're counting that as a light tank it's pretty alright.

Crushes for daysssss.

Wait valentine can still crush? I’ve found my new (old?) troll strategy.

Also it’s god-tier, borderline op vet2 deserves a shoutout. Faster turret rotation? Thank god, exactly what I needed.
31 Aug 2018, 10:14 AM
#14
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We need to buff ISU-152 back to previous glory in order to make JT/Ele useful in 1v1 once again! :D
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