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The major artillery is a rocket barrage disguised as a off map. It is nowhere as strong as the typical doctrinal off map. The shells are weakers, there are less of them, and they arrive sequentially with longer pause between them.
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And late tech indirect fire is the only similarity here.
Its a regular mortar on a light tank. It supports a playstyle that does not exist and fills a niche that is not needed and overlaps with 2 much cheaper and comparatively performing units that come way earlier.
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Or maybe something else could be done?
...The shells are weakers, there are less of them, and they arrive sequentially with longer pause between them.
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Regardless of pack howi performance Major and his barrage are very cost efficient.
By vet 2 Major gets +6 shells.
The ability is fine for cost of unit and mu cost. It is great for blowing up bunkers and OKW trucks.
One can also use the decoy to keep enemy guessing.
Dosent justify it being invisible imo , could still spoil somebodies day. Atleast with rocket arty you get a LOUD announcing noise.
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Regardless of pack howi performance Major and his barrage are very cost efficient.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Imagine you paying 60 muni every single time you want to use a panzerwerfer barrage and its max range is 50.
Barrage looks amazingly on paper, but would the unit be useful on the long run?
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major artillery does given off an pre-barrage audio cue in addition to the smoke warning. About 5-7 second of sounds of howitzer firing off in the distance.
yes, you can remove the smoke and keep the audio cue in the game.
it is not silent
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You may have misunderstood how I phrased my comment , : "Atleast with rocket arty you get a LOUD announcing noise."
I said this to compare the screams / zooms of rockets against the faint and distant off map arty.
Hope I get my point accross
Even quiet noise still dosent justify a rather powerful ability having no marker smoke.
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I have yet to see you tell something is not "very cost efficient" about literally any unit or ability, regardless how bad it was.
Yes, major arty looks amazing on paper, everything looks amazing on paper.
M-42 looks amazing on paper and I'm 100% positive that if someone made a topic on how bad it is, you'd be the first one screaming "how amazingly cost efficient it is for its cost and how it should never be changed".
But its a gimmick that provides muni strain and is of limited use.
Imagine you paying 60 muni every single time you want to use a panzerwerfer barrage and its max range is 50.
Barrage looks amazingly on paper, but would the unit be useful on the long run?
Same thing for major, most squishy unit in the whole game and a constant muni strain if you want to utilize him, making it impossible to save for weapon upgrades or off-maps.
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are we really going to get into an argument about whether the "whoosh" have more decibels than the "boom" from a howizter?
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In game it does , and thats what counts , no?
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Smokeless Major Artillery just sounds frustrating to play against.
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just like smokeless panzerwerfer and smokeless stuka.
the major artillery also give you a longer time to dodge than either the panzerwerfer or stuka. The rocket artillery have a shorter time to target.
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This is an entirely dead end argument. Even if we were to rip the sound from the game file there is still a matter of sound mixing and localization.
The howitzer barrage is accompany by a warning sounds in addition to the smoke. This is by definition not "silent".
Anyone will tell you that relying on smoke alone to dodge off map is not reliable. It's entirely possible for you to miss the initial warning smoke just by looking elsewhere. The sound of howitzer firing It is a perfectly audible sound cue.
And we also have example of On map howitzer in game whose only warning is the sound of firing gun.
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Im not saying its silent...
Im saying its quiet compared to the rockets for example...
Be my guest and rip the files , but im not debating that topic lol.
"just like smokeless panzerwerfer and smokeless stuka. "
Valid , but becuase those two units are so much louder , you know its coming. If shit is going down and there are other abilities smashing the deck being loud ( Railway arty / contentrated barrage im looking at you ) , they will drone out the distant howitzers no? Unless they are coded to mix and amplify when its loud.
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Those are expensive, very loud, need to be fairly close by and die to one tank shell though. The Major's a cheap infantry squad.
Infantry covers your lack of actual indirect fire, the Scott is great, but it's more of a mobile mortar than actual indirect fire, use the Priest and Mortar HT until the T0 Mortar is buffed.
Im not saying its silent...
Im saying its quiet compared to the rockets for example...
Be my guest and rip the files , but im not debating that topic lol.
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Ah the argument that burned out the 2013 era playerbase...
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