What time is the developers stream on again?
In 30 min I think.
Patch Notes 20/08/2013
20 Aug 2013, 19:24 PM
#21
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In 30 min I think.
20 Aug 2013, 19:29 PM
#22
Posts: 58
In 30 min I think.
Thanks. I'd like to hear their reasoning for these changes.
20 Aug 2013, 19:31 PM
#23
Posts: 252
Impresive, everything that was needed was added , congratz relic
Keep it up
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20 Aug 2013, 19:32 PM
#24
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double post ,sry (flood control effed me up)
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20 Aug 2013, 19:46 PM
#25
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How is the 222 fixed?
20 Aug 2013, 19:46 PM
#26
Posts: 229
Can someone explain the significance of the penetration changes?
20 Aug 2013, 19:51 PM
#27
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I´m somewhat disappointed. As a 2vs2 player I can see how insane the now stronger T-34s + Su-85 is going to be. The main issues remain:
- StuG will still totally lose to a su85
- Su-85 can still zoom the hell out of the zone
- Tiger and JS-2 remain the same
- Ram might be somewhat nerfed but it´s still available on every T-34, which is now probably going to be more present on the battlefield
- Wtf does the pop cap increase do? I felt it was borderline how FEW units you could field at a time. So if I buy a Tiger now I CRIPPLED my popcap by a quarter? Smaller armies is very bad imo.
Meh, will see. But I can see Russkies rubbing their hands.
- StuG will still totally lose to a su85
- Su-85 can still zoom the hell out of the zone
- Tiger and JS-2 remain the same
- Ram might be somewhat nerfed but it´s still available on every T-34, which is now probably going to be more present on the battlefield
- Wtf does the pop cap increase do? I felt it was borderline how FEW units you could field at a time. So if I buy a Tiger now I CRIPPLED my popcap by a quarter? Smaller armies is very bad imo.
Meh, will see. But I can see Russkies rubbing their hands.
20 Aug 2013, 19:51 PM
#28
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SU85s will still lolreverse out of flanks.
KV8s are now impervious to Fausts.
fasuting a kv8 was a bad idea to begin with
But it might work from the rear armour
20 Aug 2013, 19:57 PM
#29
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Can someone explain the significance of the penetration changes?
AT gren only has a 37% chance to give engine damage on panther and 63% on PIV. Goodbye, AT gren research, you probably won't be missed. Saves fuel for more SU85s.
I guess the faust got a lot higher penetration despite being free because soviets still have button...yet this change just pushes everyone even more towards the guard commanders. Oh well.
20 Aug 2013, 20:05 PM
#30
Posts: 644
Focus on improving T34 viability and better balancing RAM for mid-late game. The role of the T34 is that of a flanker meant to exploit enemy weak points with hit and run tactics.
T34 makes so much more sense now, thanks.
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20 Aug 2013, 20:06 PM
#31
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Yes i am quite bedazzled by the fact they made the faust stronger despite it being free AND soviets armour generally being weaker armour wise....
20 Aug 2013, 20:06 PM
#32
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well see there gonna be a dev stream where they explain stuff. 
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20 Aug 2013, 20:07 PM
#33
Posts: 396
I'm hoping the faust 0 dmg bug to m3s is fixed.
I see they didn't get to my Pak bug I found where it switches the targeting priority once su76s engage arty mode...
At any rate these are some good changes. Map selection, etc. Hope it pans out well.
I see they didn't get to my Pak bug I found where it switches the targeting priority once su76s engage arty mode...
At any rate these are some good changes. Map selection, etc. Hope it pans out well.
20 Aug 2013, 20:16 PM
#34
Posts: 170
AT gren only has a 37% chance to give engine damage on panther and 63% on PIV. Goodbye, AT gren research, you probably won't be missed. Saves fuel for more SU85s.
I guess the faust got a lot higher penetration despite being free because soviets still have button...yet this change just pushes everyone even more towards the guard commanders. Oh well.
According to pqumsieh, the soviet at nade acts like a piat and fires in an arc, and thus has a high chance of hitting rear armor, thus the lower pen compared to a panzerfaust.
There are supposedly additional su85 changes in the pipe, but I think they want to let the focused sight change play out before they change it even further.
The 222 fix essentially retains the same mg34 once you upgrade to the 20mm, previously upon upgrade the mg34 was simply a placeholder and did 0 damage, now the coaxial gun has the same stats as the pintle mount.
20 Aug 2013, 21:02 PM
#35
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20 Aug 2013, 21:23 PM
#36
Posts: 148
Buff the T34 = Good
Leave RAM in and barely touch the SU-85 = Really bad.
Seriously? SU-85 needs a bigger nerf. T34 damage output buff is good, but IS2 and Tiger and Panthers need their damage output increased as well. T34, P4, IS2, Tigers and Panthers having the same damage output is ridiculous.
Leave RAM in and barely touch the SU-85 = Really bad.
Seriously? SU-85 needs a bigger nerf. T34 damage output buff is good, but IS2 and Tiger and Panthers need their damage output increased as well. T34, P4, IS2, Tigers and Panthers having the same damage output is ridiculous.
20 Aug 2013, 21:24 PM
#37
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Goodbye Minsk Pocket, goodbye Pripyat Winter...
Except you might still end up playing on both.
20 Aug 2013, 21:34 PM
#38
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T34, P4, IS2, Tigers and Panthers having the same damage output is ridiculous.
T34 now does 120 damage, up from 80. The others you mentioned do 160 if I'm not mistaken.
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20 Aug 2013, 21:38 PM
#40
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What is meant by target weakpoint?
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