2v2 and upward are totally broken

• Double Luchs
  In 2v2s, these units come at 6 ish minute. They need only one fuel point to get their 6 minute luchs, if they both go for it, they can get both fuels without effort, since their vehicles come quicker than soviet t70 and about the same time as Stuart, yet they can have a shreck out that can deter both allied vehicles once they hit the field. This means double shreck supporting double luchs.
  
  
• Double schwere
  Once they have both fuels secured and both of them have luchs and volks are piling up in blobs, they both put down their schwere HQ. They can secure teritory, support it with LeIGs and their shrek blobs which are backed up by the luchs. This is pretty much uncounterable.
  
  
• Double shreck blobs
  They both will go for double shreck blobs, because it is the easiest and best way to support their early aggression and domination, leaving you with no strategic option to counter their luchs play, since you will get confronted by shrecks, which counter your vehicles and luchs will counter your infantry together with the volks blob.
  
  
• Double obers
  And after both fuels are secured, luchs has dominated, shreck blobs have deterred early vehicle play, you will start to see obers followed up by either double P4 or one P4 and one Panther. Have fun!!
  
  
• Double p4
  Double P4 come out after you had your uphill battle in the first 11-12 minutes of the game. These are supported by shreck blobs, a luchs, multiple LeIGs and obers. Again, you are reacting too a synergy which in essence is uncounterable.
  
  
• Double Panther
  If both players don't go for P4, they go for double Panthers. This is simply uncounterable as well, since they are supported by two shreck blobs, whom themselves are supported by luchs, obers and leIGs.
  
  
• KT
  If you manage to kill a P4 or a Panther, or simply don't encounter anything and hold out long enough, you will face KT, which again you can't counter, since KT is supported by either armor from other player, or another KT, two shreck blobs, luchs, obers and leIGs.
  
  

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:29 AMSpaceHamster

Remember how no one liked 75 muni shrecks? If you get triple shreck cost reduction bulletins they go down to 77 munis for volks.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:39 AMGdot

This blows (from a team games fanboi perspective)...

OKW a scaled resource income per game mode? (2s/3s/4s)
Rollback until patch thoroughly tested?
Help?

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:39 AMGdot

Help?

Jump back to quoted post24 Nov 2015, 19:43 PMbC_

we cross reference all op with statistical data that we've collected just a FYI. Sometimes OP is right sometimes they are very very very very wrong.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:43 AMQbix

TIL: moving 2 squads already qualifies as a blob

I guess more than one vehicle already counts as vehicle spam.

Way to be taken serious.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:39 AMGdot

Help?

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 02:00 AMsorryWTFisthis

Anyways, great patch. I totally disagree with every single point the OP has made. USF T3 hard counters OKW early mid game. OKW T4 is delayed now, it takes longer to tech than it used to.

SU can lockdown OKW from the get go. Brits might be a tad fucked though.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 02:00 AMsorryWTFisthis

Anyways, great patch. I totally disagree with every single point the OP has made. USF T3 hard counters OKW early mid game. OKW T4 is delayed now, it takes longer to tech than it used to.

SU can lockdown OKW from the get go. Brits might be a tad fucked though.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 01:42 AMTobis

The volks are really annoying now but I will wait until I play more. The fuel prices will obviously need to change to delay their vehicles. Finally, it is really not much of a loss to lose your set up trucks. It was a huge deal before because you would have to wait for the truck to spawn before you could build a new one. Now OKW can just shit them out and rebuild immediately if they have the fuel.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 02:38 AMsorryWTFisthis

T4 is delayed because you have to buy the trucks and build the Puma, Luchs and somethimes the fapTrack. If you lose the first puma you have to build another one as a JP or PIV is far off. Hope that clears up and explain the new meta for you.

Jump back to quoted post4 Dec 2015, 02:38 AMsorryWTFisthis

T4 is delayed because you have to buy the trucks and build the Puma, Luchs and somethimes the fapTrack. If you lose the first puma you have to build another one as a JP or PIV is far off. Hope that clears up and explain the new meta for you.