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ISU-152 feels really weak

4 Nov 2015, 22:08 PM
#1
avatar of Arclyte

Posts: 692

Does anyone else feel like this guy isn't strong enough for the cost? It constantly misses its HE round, and it's AP round has 200 pen at long range, which struggles against anything tougher than a panzer 4.

I know people hate getting gibbed from long range, so I wouldn't mind if the HE round had a higher dmg dropoff from its AOE splash if it meant buffing its accuracy. The AP round needs a flat-out penetration buff.
4 Nov 2015, 22:22 PM
#2
avatar of F1sh

Posts: 521

Yup, for 230 fuel, it struggles to pen a panther.
4 Nov 2015, 22:29 PM
#3
avatar of Calm Water

Posts: 34

Agreed, isu is suffering now, especially against german armor.At late game its generally infantry counter, penetration is too low.
4 Nov 2015, 22:30 PM
#4
avatar of RedT3rror

Posts: 747 | Subs: 2

The ISU is in one state: Unreliable. The penetration is just too low for a heavy tank destroyer with such a high reload and aim time. The HE shell seems to be even worse. It either hits nothing (uneven terrain being its biggest foe, argh!), kills 1 model or wipes a squad instantly.

The AP rounds needs a penetration buff while the HE round should be similiar to the shell of a Bulldozer or Brummbär.
4 Nov 2015, 22:41 PM
#5
avatar of Thunderhun

Posts: 1613

L2P...it's a beast with Con support and ATGs.

Then give HE rounds to Ele and JT if you want your ISU-152 to counter everything.
4 Nov 2015, 22:47 PM
#6
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

I agree it needs a penetration buff.ISU-152 should have no problems in that regard.Accuracy can be increased a bit too.
4 Nov 2015, 23:08 PM
#7
avatar of siuking666

Posts: 707

The fuck is this bullshit?
ISU has 70 Range, 240 penetration, the best long range AT destroyer Allies has.
HE shell has a huge blast radius and can one shot squads from 70 range Fog of War.
It is fine right now, unless you want that OP as fuck, Anti-everything, rain death from afar, self-spotting ISU back.
4 Nov 2015, 23:15 PM
#8
avatar of Sully

Posts: 390 | Subs: 2

Is this real life?
4 Nov 2015, 23:24 PM
#9
avatar of Frost

Posts: 1024 | Subs: 1

ISU is fine. And remember it isn't heavy tank destroyer like Elefant but Heavy Assault Gun created to be universal on battlefield and I think, it is doing his job very well.
5 Nov 2015, 01:54 AM
#10
avatar of Arclyte

Posts: 692

It doesn't do anything "very well"

It's got the same accuracy problems the IS-2 has, it seriously feels like it has a 30% chance to hit. The dshk on top feels more deadly at times.
5 Nov 2015, 01:59 AM
#11
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

Posts: 760

Agreed it needs a pen buff its penetration is awful considering its atrocious reload time.
5 Nov 2015, 02:34 AM
#12
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

then jadtiger needs buff then too
5 Nov 2015, 02:42 AM
#13
avatar of The_rEd_bEar

Posts: 760

then jadtiger needs buff then too
the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.
5 Nov 2015, 03:48 AM
#14
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.

whos talking about pen m talking about other buffs like removing the stupid stun mechanic...its fucking frustating on at only ans such a expensive tank
5 Nov 2015, 07:15 AM
#15
avatar of Muxsus

Posts: 170

The biggest problem with it is the rounds hitting the ground, most noticeable on Angoville and Langres. They just won't hit infantry at max range. 200 pen at max range is not exactly great either, considering that you need to screen its flanks with AT. Right now it just doesn't feel like it is worth it. I'd trade off the ridiculous RNG wipes for some reliability at range and a pen buff.
5 Nov 2015, 08:14 AM
#16
avatar of CombatWombat

Posts: 98

Lets not forget that the vet 1 ability, which is supposed to pass through shot blockers, also suffers from terrian collision. This often makes it a complete waste of 70 muni.

Since the ISU lost the ability to self spot, it has become a unit that is difficult to justify considering its cost and the baby sitting it needs.

It shouldn't be a wipe machine but it shouldn't be so unreliable either.
5 Nov 2015, 08:16 AM
#17
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

Its too costly not to pen heavies.So definitely deserves that much at least.
5 Nov 2015, 08:39 AM
#18
avatar of Trubbbel

Posts: 721

the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.

And from 80 range. Nothing the allies have can touch it safely.
5 Nov 2015, 08:41 AM
#19
avatar of ElSlayer

Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1

the jagtiger insta pens any tank in the game from across the map.

Except another JagdTiger :megusta:
5 Nov 2015, 09:01 AM
#20
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17875 | Subs: 8


Except another JagdTiger :megusta:

Actually, JT is the only unit in game that can deflect JT shell. :snfPeter:
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