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Why T4 T34/76 is a mistake

aaa
8 Sep 2015, 18:42 PM
#1
avatar of aaa

Posts: 1486

Getting T34/76 will make soviet player run out of control groups. Now In late game you ussualy have 9-10 control groups occupied even using better tanks than T34/76. Puting 2 units in 1 group is a way to lose those units esp tanks cuz they block the path for each other. Only double mortar, sniper and ATG are OK in 1 group.

My suggestion:

1. Replace T34\76 with 85 version.
2. Remove ML20 from 1v1 game (with its fire rate its bad in 1v1, dmg is irrelevant here cuz it cant hit target). And put t34/76 on its spot with 7 CP requirement.

9 Sep 2015, 04:27 AM
#2
avatar of LuftWaffles

Posts: 49

I like ml20 and what if instead of coming at 7cp it comes with tier 3 (honestly I would just like to see 76 and 85 buff and price increase to make them viable, 85 being soviet panther)
9 Sep 2015, 08:03 AM
#3
avatar of Nuclear Arbitor
Patrion 28

Posts: 2470

i run all my same unit types in one control group, tanks included, since it's too damnn hard to differentiate control groups in a battle. if i need to micro one particular tank i just select it. there is a micro tax with any kind of spam though.
9 Sep 2015, 08:16 AM
#4
avatar of CptEend
Patrion 14

Posts: 369

Lol, if control groups are your problem, just reserve one for the T34?
9 Sep 2015, 08:22 AM
#5
avatar of Array
Donator 11

Posts: 609

Lol, if control groups are your problem, just reserve one for the T34?


I think aaa's problems go beyond this
9 Sep 2015, 09:11 AM
#6
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954

+1 to stock T-34/85, I see no reason why they aren't stock unit
9 Sep 2015, 09:14 AM
#7
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17884 | Subs: 8

jump backJump back to quoted post9 Sep 2015, 09:11 AMUGBEAR
+1 to stock T-34/85, I see no reason why they aren't stock unit


This is because only a handful of them were ever made compared to tens of tousands of panthers, pumas or ostwinds :sibHyena::luvCarrot:
9 Sep 2015, 09:29 AM
#8
avatar of RMMLz

Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1

Give it extra pen and range at Vet3 and we're done.
9 Sep 2015, 10:06 AM
#9
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

jump backJump back to quoted post9 Sep 2015, 09:11 AMUGBEAR
+1 to stock T-34/85, I see no reason why they aren't stock unit


What do with T-34/76 then?
9 Sep 2015, 10:08 AM
#10
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

The T-34/76 is useless. So they don't need it Kappa
9 Sep 2015, 10:14 AM
#11
avatar of TickTack

Posts: 578

MT
9 Sep 2015, 10:47 AM
#12
avatar of newvan

Posts: 354



What do with T-34/76 then?

It could be in doctrines that have T-34/85 upgrade now. Make it like Valentine, 7-8 CP with useful ability for intelligence (T-70 on steroids) or like command panzer, with useful aura, but higher price, or change it to OT-34/76 with crappy flamer.
9 Sep 2015, 12:25 PM
#13
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954



What do with T-34/76 then?


:megusta: made them ram harder and replace the call-in slot of T-34/85. But really, T-34/85 is not a stock unit feels really bad....they are mass produced since end of 1943....they join every battle at eastern front during the late war stage..
9 Sep 2015, 12:57 PM
#14
avatar of __deleted__

Posts: 4314 | Subs: 7

No we cant give soviets a ijdoctrinal t34/85. Imagine those axis whinners that have first heart attack after british launch , second after riflemen buff and easy 8 buff and now t34/85 ?

No we dont want to lovver axis player base because of many unintended deaths
9 Sep 2015, 15:38 PM
#15
avatar of Jonky

Posts: 118

I quite like the 76, they're really dirt cheap and with the pop cap decrease you can royally spam them. Shame they have been reverted from 8 pop cap to 10
9 Sep 2015, 16:40 PM
#16
avatar of NinjaWJ

Posts: 2070

i want to like the t34/76. They should make it 8 pop cap instead of 10 like they are proposing. However, i still think it will be unattractive since the tank sucks
9 Sep 2015, 16:56 PM
#17
avatar of TheSleep3r

Posts: 670

I wanna be the very best
Like no one ever was
To build them is my real test
To ram them is my cause

I will travel across the map
Spamming far and wide
Each T-34 to understand
The power that's inside

T-34, (gotta ram them all) it's you and me
I know its my destiny
/76, oh, you're my best friend
In a VP we must defend

T-34, (gotta ram them all) OKW so OP
Our courage will pull us through
You ram me and I'll ram you
(T-34) Gotta ram'em all
10 Sep 2015, 00:57 AM
#18
avatar of wongtp

Posts: 647

t70 kills infantry much better and cheaper while being available faster.

su85/su76 are so much more effective against armour.

there's so much better alternatives to them and they do nothing on the field.

just make them good at something.
10 Sep 2015, 01:55 AM
#19
avatar of comm_ash
Patrion 14

Posts: 1194 | Subs: 1

T34/76 used to beTHE anti infantry tank in the game. It had amazing anti infantry firepower at the expense of its anti tank firepower. This had to be changed because it meant that soviet T3 was hard countered by a single tank.

However, with the great changes to soviet teching, I think that it is time to revert the old t34/76 changes and make it into an anti infantry tank again. Have it cost 100 fuel and become a better version of the T70, with better hp, armor, and slightly more at.

Boom, t34/76 becomes a perfectly viable lategame unit, that serves an unfilled roll in its factions lategame.
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