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does the Penal satchel no longer ohk building?

8 Sep 2015, 11:50 AM
#21
avatar of Trubbbel

Posts: 721

I read the dps

Conscript far ex reload: 0.771
Conscript far inc reload: 0.734
Penal far ex reload: 0.738
Penal far inc reload: 0.676

So, ok sure, but it's really about the same I would say.

No way to tell if the figures are still valid though https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IX68mtMEFLUVZCJpdgLxtm9cLajZATNRwISihru8rZM/edit#gid=0
8 Sep 2015, 11:54 AM
#22
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930

I read the dps

Conscript far ex reload: 0.771
Conscript far inc reload: 0.734
Penal far ex reload: 0.738
Penal far inc reload: 0.676

So, ok sure, but it's really about the same I would say.


use this website: http://www.coh2-stats.com/ the dps calculator use the same formula used by Relic.

the Penal's dps doesn't really get better than the conscript's DPS around 15 range. The svt is basically a smg without any of the benefit.

8 Sep 2015, 11:54 AM
#23
avatar of PaRaNo1a
Patrion 26

Posts: 600


They do more damage than conscrips at all ranges plus there is a flamer upgrade. The role is anti-infantry.


They almost the same thing as Conscripts just with satchel and are more expensive.
So there is no point to them regardless on how you look at them.
8 Sep 2015, 15:03 PM
#24
avatar of Flying Dustbin

Posts: 270 | Subs: 1

Perhaps Penals should get a DP-28 upgrade to emphasize on their anti-infantry capabilities? Seeing as the infantry flamethrowers are being heavily reworked to anti-garrison and no longer leave flamepools of death on the floor everywhere.
8 Sep 2015, 19:46 PM
#25
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

I read the dps

Conscript far ex reload: 0.771
Conscript far inc reload: 0.734
Penal far ex reload: 0.738
Penal far inc reload: 0.676

So, ok sure, but it's really about the same I would say.

No way to tell if the figures are still valid though https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IX68mtMEFLUVZCJpdgLxtm9cLajZATNRwISihru8rZM/edit#gid=0


That's outdated.

Use coh2stats for a more updated one.
8 Sep 2015, 20:53 PM
#26
avatar of Mr. Someguy

Posts: 4928

Perhaps Penals should get a DP-28 upgrade to emphasize on their anti-infantry capabilities? Seeing as the infantry flamethrowers are being heavily reworked to anti-garrison and no longer leave flamepools of death on the floor everywhere.


Not a bad idea, really.
8 Sep 2015, 20:54 PM
#27
avatar of What Doth Life?!
Patrion 27

Posts: 1664

Move Oorah! to vet 1, remove the tripwire flares, add a more relevant vet 2 boost and give them Cruzz's Kappatch changes (a bit more long range dps and moving accuracy) and Penals would be good IMO.
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