please show me a replay where you have a pak, multiple mines and panzerschrecks before a rushed M5 is raping your units
2 PaK shots kill it, please try playing as Soviet vs OKW AAHT rush.
M5 Quadrush
22 Jul 2015, 14:43 PM
#21
Posts: 513
2 PaK shots kill it, please try playing as Soviet vs OKW AAHT rush.
22 Jul 2015, 14:48 PM
#22
Posts: 1653
2 PaK shots kill it, please try playing as Soviet vs OKW AAHT rush.
Get a quad M5 and ruin it Kappa
22 Jul 2015, 14:56 PM
#23
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Get a quad M5 and ruin it Kappa
Allright, that was a good one
22 Jul 2015, 14:56 PM
#24
Posts: 513
Get a quad M5 and ruin it Kappa
No I am teching to T4 instead.
22 Jul 2015, 15:00 PM
#25
Posts: 967
Lets the dust settle a bit, we will see the stats of who is winning most of the time and after that, actions could be taken if there are needed.
Thanks.
P.S: I'm pretty sure that most skilled axis player will find new way to still win.
Thanks.
P.S: I'm pretty sure that most skilled axis player will find new way to still win.
VoltarDark
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Long live to COH2, the king of all team RTS !
22 Jul 2015, 15:05 PM
#26
Posts: 2742
Ostruppen. 
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22 Jul 2015, 15:06 PM
#27
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I m 100% sure any single ATG hard counters M5. Even panzerwerwer HARD COUNTERS it. Not soft counters.
Its good if its stays as is cuz axis would need to guess what will it be T70 or M5. And counters are the same but positioninig and ways to engage are different slightly.
I don't think anyone argues that a ATG is a hard counter to light vehicles. The point is that the immobility of the ATG really hinders it's ability against an early M5 with it's current timing on any map that is semi-open. It turns a hard counter into more of a "medium counter" or whatever you want to call it. It results in you either being forced off other parts of the map or forced into buying multiple ATGs that only sets you further back.
I also don't really see what you mean with the Panzerwerfer being a hard counter either... T4 Artillery that is generally agreed to be one of the most underperforming units in the game isn't relevant at all. (Though I'm sure if the barrage hit the M5 it would probably kill it)
22 Jul 2015, 15:09 PM
#28
Posts: 18
2 PaK shots kill it, please try playing as Soviet vs OKW AAHT rush.
who cares if 2 pak shots kill it, most light vehicles are killed by 2 pak shots
and i played against a early okw aaht rush often enough, i just got a at gun as my 5th unit which solved the problem because of it's set up time
and the 5cp puma is still a useless piece of trash, early vehicles appear at around 3CP.
22 Jul 2015, 15:13 PM
#29
Posts: 1486
I don't think anyone argues that a ATG is a hard counter to light vehicles. The point is that the immobility of the ATG really hinders it's ability against an early M5 with it's current timing on any map that is semi-open. It turns a hard counter into more of a "medium counter" or whatever you want to call it. It results in you either being forced off other parts of the map or forced into buying multiple ATGs that only sets you further back.
I also don't really see what you mean with the Panzerwerfer being a hard counter either... T4 Artillery that is generally agreed to be one of the most underperforming units in the game isn't relevant at all. (Though I'm sure if the barrage hit the M5 it would probably kill it)
i meant raketen. AT gun. Those germ crazy names are hard to fully remember
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22 Jul 2015, 15:24 PM
#30
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I love how 2 quards kill pumas.
22 Jul 2015, 15:25 PM
#31
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I m 100% sure any single ATG hard counters M5. Even panzerwerwer HARD COUNTERS it. Not soft counters.
22 Jul 2015, 15:29 PM
#32
Posts: 18
Ostruppen.
aka the useless overpriced cannon fodder squads that become redundant after the early game
i forgot, they are redundant in all game stages since they changed the price of them to 200MP
22 Jul 2015, 15:35 PM
#33
Posts: 708 | Subs: 1
This unit is not any better than american AA truck or okw AA truck. Just cheaper, comes later and takes time to upgrade.
"panzershrek is useless against that" Panzershrek is also useless against american aa truck, 0 from 10 my aa trucks was killed by panzershrek.
"panzershrek is useless against that" Panzershrek is also useless against american aa truck, 0 from 10 my aa trucks was killed by panzershrek.
22 Jul 2015, 15:36 PM
#34
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aka the useless overpriced cannon fodder squads that become redundant after the early game
i forgot, they are redundant in all game stages since they changed the price of them to 200MP
Osttruppen suck? Not in 1v1 and 2v2
Osttruppen are probably a pretty good choice vs. quad rushes because they can be everywhere and don't bleed easily. WOould be interesting to try out.
22 Jul 2015, 15:38 PM
#35
Posts: 742 | Subs: 1
This unit is not any better than american AA truck or okw AA truck. Just cheaper, comes later and takes time to upgrade.
0 Set up time, 360 Degree of pure democracy ;D
and can reinforce !
22 Jul 2015, 15:39 PM
#36
Posts: 708 | Subs: 1
0 Set up time, 360 Degree of pure democracy ;D
and can reinforce !
Yeah, you right, this is too much for 30 fuel.
22 Jul 2015, 15:41 PM
#37
Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1
Yeah, you right, this is too much for 30 fuel.
And 120 muni.
22 Jul 2015, 15:43 PM
#38
Posts: 1653
M5 is currently just a damn joke... a not funny joke...
22 Jul 2015, 15:44 PM
#39
Posts: 1653
No I am teching to T4 instead.
Only because you haven't seen it that it completely reks a FHT Kappa
22 Jul 2015, 15:44 PM
#40
Posts: 742 | Subs: 1
Yeah, you right, this is too much for 30 fuel.
Is 30 fuel supposed to be a lot ? its only 10 fuel more than a scout car
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