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Porygon
12 Jul 2015, 16:26 PM
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This guy is actually quite decent. The penetrating may not punching front armor and they are VERY deadly when you flank.

Decent max speed, acceleration, surprising high HP, good reload, and it is just 80 fuel. ( and turn Germans into spaghetti, ofc )

Maybe it is stupid that a fragile but fast (historical) TD having that high HP, could it be marginally OP for it just to crush infantry?


I am not sure but isn't Jackson the same thing with a more powerful gun? WTF should Jackson acceleration being that shitty?
Anyway, I like the M10 in this patch. :)
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Jadame!
12 Jul 2015, 16:36 PM
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But stugs rape m10s
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Porygon
12 Jul 2015, 16:39 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 16:36 PMJadame!
But stugs rape m10s


Maybe, depends on map though. Possibly doing well when you smoke it first.
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siuking666
12 Jul 2015, 16:46 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 16:26 PMPorygon
This guy is actually quite decent. The penetrating may not punching front armor and they are VERY deadly when you flank.

Decent max speed, acceleration, surprising high HP, good reload, and it is just 80 fuel. ( and turn Germans into spaghetti, ofc )

Maybe it is stupid that a fragile but fast (historical) TD having that high HP, could it be marginally OP for it just to crush infantry?


I am not sure but isn't Jackson the same thing with a more powerful gun? WTF should Jackson acceleration being that shitty?
Anyway, I like the M10 in this patch. :)


OP for crushing infantry? Are you serious? All mediums can crush infantry
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12 Jul 2015, 16:48 PM
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Von has amazing M10 micro, rekt an Ele, P5, Ostwind and a TA.

M10s are good, just require a different approach of using.
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12 Jul 2015, 16:51 PM
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I don't agree that they are the best allied TDs. The m10 is certainly a viable TD but the need for it to flank heavier tanks inevitably exposes it to more enemy AT guns.

When there are SU85s or Jacksons on the field, you'll have to expose your AT guns on the front line because otherwise they can't support your armored spearhead against 60 range tank destroyers. If the enemy tank destroyers need to flank, you can keep your AT guns in a more safe position behind your armored spearhead and they can still support your tanks from there.
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Porygon
12 Jul 2015, 16:54 PM
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Aerohank logic: If the unit need to flank, it is shit.

Applied to Rifles, Cons, M10, etc.
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Aerohank
12 Jul 2015, 16:56 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 16:54 PMPorygon
Aerohank logic: If the unit need to flank, it is shit.

Applied to Rifles, Cons, M10, etc.


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I don't agree that they are the best allied TDs. The m10 is certainly a viable TD but the need for it to flank heavier tanks inevitably exposes it to more enemy AT guns.


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13 Jul 2015, 05:27 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 16:51 PMAerohank
I don't agree that they are the best allied TDs. The m10 is certainly a viable TD but the need for it to flank heavier tanks inevitably exposes it to more enemy AT guns.


While true, this isn't really the M10s fault so much as it's a crippling design flaw in the layouts of so many maps.
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Mr. Someguy
13 Jul 2015, 05:36 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post12 Jul 2015, 16:46 PMsiuking666
OP for crushing infantry? Are you serious? All mediums can crush infantry


The M10 moves faster and turns tighter than other crush-capable vehicles, which make it better at crushing Infantry than anything else.
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BeefSurge
13 Jul 2015, 05:37 AM
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I think the M10 crush is kinda broken.
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13 Jul 2015, 05:45 AM
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Something about the very presence of an m10 barrel charging towards your forces causing a mass retreat unless there is an AT gun/tank watching in front of your infantry at all times is a bit well...
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AchtAchter
13 Jul 2015, 08:09 AM
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I think crush on the M10 is too strong and somewhat is in conflict with coh2 mechanics. It's a TD that does reasonably well against infantry because of it.
In my opinion a dedicated TD should not endanger your infantry.
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13 Jul 2015, 08:17 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 08:09 AMAchtAchter
I think crush on the M10 is too strong and somewhat is in conflict with coh2 mechanics. It's a TD that does reasonably well against infantry because of it.
In my opinion a dedicated TD should not endanger your infantry.


True enough, dunno why Stug can snipe infantry so well.
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13 Jul 2015, 08:19 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 08:17 AMEsxile


True enough, dunno why Stug can snipe infantry so well.


Because relic fucked it up and instead of 0.06 near accuracy they made 0.6.
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13 Jul 2015, 13:34 PM
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I think M10s are currently in a pretty good spot.
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13 Jul 2015, 13:44 PM
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omg porygon accepts an allied unit
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Porygon
13 Jul 2015, 14:24 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 13:44 PMdasheepeh
omg porygon accepts an allied unit


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13 Jul 2015, 14:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:24 PMPorygon


I hate Soviet only, I said it many times. :foreveralone:


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13 Jul 2015, 14:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post13 Jul 2015, 14:24 PMPorygon


I hate Soviet only, I said it many times. :foreveralone:


Man you are thinking the same way I do so I deserve to be in 200 top players too :P
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