Just wanted to get a general feel of the thoughts of the community on overall faction strengths atm..
if possible give ur thoughts on why u made ur particular choice.Made seperate polls for single and teamgames.
Faction Strength
11 Jul 2014, 19:15 PM
#1
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11 Jul 2014, 19:29 PM
#2
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I say Soviets are more superior compared to the Amis in 1v1s as Soviet Forces can operate on every map with full potencial, while USF can't do shit on closed (limited flanks, mobility). In late-game the Soviets are still more powerfull than USF thanks to their unit's durability and tons of commanders.
USF late-game doesn't exists and it's suffers from missing hard-counters through the whole game, by the end of the match they are usually lacking MP as well.
Best in 2v2s and above is OKW as they don't have to get all buildings so they can specialise to maximum potencial if properly supported.
USF late-game doesn't exists and it's suffers from missing hard-counters through the whole game, by the end of the match they are usually lacking MP as well.
Best in 2v2s and above is OKW as they don't have to get all buildings so they can specialise to maximum potencial if properly supported.
11 Jul 2014, 19:46 PM
#3
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Can't say something like that in general, depends always on the map and the opposing factions.
11 Jul 2014, 19:49 PM
#4
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Can't say something like that in general, depends always on the map and the opposing factions.
Pretty much.
Doctrine choice also impacts that.
Too much variables for single general statement.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
11 Jul 2014, 19:50 PM
#5
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I say Soviets are more superior compared to the Amis in 1v1s as Soviet Forces can operate on every map with full potencial, while USF can't do shit on closed (limited flanks, mobility). In late-game the Soviets are still more powerfull than USF thanks to their unit's durability and tons of commanders.
USF late-game doesn't exists and it's suffers from missing hard-counters through the whole game, by the end of the match they are usually lacking MP as well.
Best in 2v2s and above is OKW as they don't have to get all buildings so they can specialise to maximum potencial if properly supported.
I agree.
Soviets is all about chosing the right strat for the right map, if you manage to do that you'll be in a very good position no matter the opponent you face.
Ostheer is by far the weakest in any matchup. Their weaponteams melt to pretty much everything and grens are lost without lmgs or g43s. T2 Vehicles are usually hardcountered the moment they arrive, t4 is rarely ever affordable, t3 is lackluster to say the least. It's all about waiting for the Tiger.
11 Jul 2014, 19:55 PM
#6
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The sad reality is that the Ostheer is weak as fuck now 
They couldve made T3 more attractive to get, but no, they needed to slightly buff the P4's scatter AND to INCREASE its cost. T4 is still worthless 1v1.
As much as i like playing allies, give the Ostheer some love, so we can see other strats than Tiger rushes.
They couldve made T3 more attractive to get, but no, they needed to slightly buff the P4's scatter AND to INCREASE its cost. T4 is still worthless 1v1.
As much as i like playing allies, give the Ostheer some love, so we can see other strats than Tiger rushes.
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11 Jul 2014, 19:55 PM
#7
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I agree.
Soviets is all about chosing the right strat for the right map, if you manage to do that you'll be in a very good position no matter the opponent you face.
Ostheer is by far the weakest in any matchup. Their weaponteams melt to pretty much everything and grens are lost without lmgs or g43s. T2 Vehicles are usually hardcountered the moment they arrive, t4 is rarely ever affordable, t3 is lackluster to say the least. It's all about waiting for the Tiger.
Ostheer is still very good vs Soviets. Against USF it require tons of practice but in the end you'll see USF cannot counter well positioned Paks, vetted mg-42s and snipers unless they have indirect fire. If you don't belive me just check how Cruzz plays.
But yeah, Ostheer T4 could use some love.
On equal skill level it's WFA < EFA atm.
11 Jul 2014, 20:00 PM
#8
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Ostheer is still very good vs Soviets. Against USF it require tons of practice but in the end you'll see USF cannot counter well positioned Paks, vetted mg-42s and snipers unless they have indirect fire. If you don't belive me just check how Cruzz plays.
But yeah, Ostheer T4 could use some love.
On equal skill level it's WFA < EFA atm.
I do belive you. As Ostheer you really need to "work" hard, any mistakes get severely punished.
That doesn't change the fact that they're the weakest faction atm imo.
11 Jul 2014, 20:07 PM
#9
Posts: 1571
Which is strongest faction right now in 1 vs 1?
Strongest to weakest:
USF, OKW, Soviet, Wehr
Which is strongest faction right now in 2 vs 2 and above?
Strongest to weakest:
Soviet, OKW, Wehr, USF
Strongest to weakest:
USF, OKW, Soviet, Wehr
Which is strongest faction right now in 2 vs 2 and above?
Strongest to weakest:
Soviet, OKW, Wehr, USF
11 Jul 2014, 20:24 PM
#10
Posts: 2779
I disagree Ostheer is weak against USF, I think it is a free win.
11 Jul 2014, 20:31 PM
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I still struggle vs Ostheer as US, stugs and tigers are pretty tough to beat.
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11 Jul 2014, 20:49 PM
#12
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Which is strongest faction right now in 1 vs 1?
Strongest to weakest:
USF, OKW, Soviet, Wehr
Which is strongest faction right now in 2 vs 2 and above?
Strongest to weakest:
Soviet, OKW, Wehr, USF
Waaaaait a minute. How's OKW better than Soviet? Everytime I play or watch games Soviets steamroll OKW.
11 Jul 2014, 20:55 PM
#13
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In big team games I think a mix will trump any match up that is all one side
OKH + OKW Beats US or Sov
US + Sov beats OKH or OKW
Not prepaed to talk below 3v3 however.
I would hate to play 1v1 as OKW and I've only done so once, and that was by accident
OKH + OKW Beats US or Sov
US + Sov beats OKH or OKW
Not prepaed to talk below 3v3 however.
I would hate to play 1v1 as OKW and I've only done so once, and that was by accident
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11 Jul 2014, 22:08 PM
#14
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OKW the only faction where T70 is still good late game....
The PTRS's are fine as they are. Whenever i'm up against Guard Infantry, I always have to be careful with my vehicles or the Guards will completely destroy them. Good range, good damage and fairly cheap; if anything, the PTRS should nerfed since it's ridiculously good for the price. Even in the hands of Conscripts, the PTRS's are extremely potent.
12 Jul 2014, 06:54 AM
#15
Posts: 522
1v1
Soviet>OKW>USF>Ostheer (Ostheer is free win for USF)
2v2
OKW>Soviet>Ostheer>USF (USF Late game sucks balls)
Soviet>OKW>USF>Ostheer (Ostheer is free win for USF)
2v2
OKW>Soviet>Ostheer>USF (USF Late game sucks balls)
12 Jul 2014, 08:54 AM
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OKW weak in 1v1, very strong in teamgames. Man, I don't envy you, Peter 
12 Jul 2014, 09:02 AM
#17
Posts: 503
i do think it really depends on the matchup
soviet vs wehr = about the same id say
soviet vs OKW = a walk in the park for soviets
us vs okw = about even
us vs wehr = the german army gets eaten alive
soviet vs wehr = about the same id say
soviet vs OKW = a walk in the park for soviets
us vs okw = about even
us vs wehr = the german army gets eaten alive
12 Jul 2014, 09:32 AM
#18
Posts: 390
Permanently BannedSovjets are pretty weak atm, some buffs are needed there and maybe some nerfs on OKW and Wehrmacht !
12 Jul 2014, 09:51 AM
#19
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Sovjets are pretty weak atm, some buffs are needed there and maybe some nerfs on OKW and Wehrmacht !
Sir, are you high?
12 Jul 2014, 10:31 AM
#20
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Problem as Sov in teamgames is sometimes your US teammate vs the OKW.
If you haven't won under 20~25 mins things can be rough for Sov aswell.
Mostly when you notice that your US mate has nothing left to offer.. happens to me alot if i'm US in late
, but funny enough that i've encountered several US players facing the exact same problem. 
After 20 mins dejavue effect takes over...lol
If you haven't won under 20~25 mins things can be rough for Sov aswell.
Mostly when you notice that your US mate has nothing left to offer.. happens to me alot if i'm US in late
, but funny enough that i've encountered several US players facing the exact same problem. After 20 mins dejavue effect takes over...lol
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