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need pointers for playing DAK- 2v2

17 Feb 2024, 12:07 PM
#1
avatar of mrgame2

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I've only just started playing this mode and seem to be having major problems. Are there specific strategies for this mode ? I've noticed I get shut down hard by early Allies infanty, Mg, and then into light vehicles, and USF zook ranger squads are tragically OP with wiping PGren. Scouts drop keeps decapping and long vision and defense arty

Why are they called Pgren without panzershreks now?
17 Feb 2024, 12:10 PM
#2
avatar of mrgame2

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Also marders are useless against light tanks.
AT rifles are useless against light tanks.
P3 is so late and useless against Zook and double light tanks

Mines does not do engine damage enough to slow down light tanks, neither does snares

Why do people claims DAK is best?
17 Feb 2024, 16:58 PM
#3
avatar of JZuna

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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2024, 12:07 PMmrgame2
I've only just started playing this mode and seem to be having major problems. Are there specific strategies for this mode ? I've noticed I get shut down hard by early Allies infanty, Mg, and then into light vehicles, and USF zook ranger squads are tragically OP with wiping PGren. Scouts drop keeps decapping and long vision and defense arty

Why are they called Pgren without panzershreks now?



So I have been playing a lot of DAk on all game modes, right now they are reliant on their italian units either the double L6 tank call in and gustas or the carros.

Best opening seems to be pgren, 250 halftrack, pgren and maybe another engineer keep the 250 alive and get it to vet1 so units can heal while inside the halftrack.

If facing US double jeeps no need for MG since there wont be much infantry on the field, you could try rushing the autocannon upgrade to counter the jeeps.

Once you tech you should get one Jaeger squad its a defensive unit to prevent light armor dives, now choose either the flack halftrack L6 call in or keep teching for the higher HP 8rad.

Since you dont like marders go flack halftrack and get AT guns instead, from here I prefer going carro armato get the HP upgrades for vehicles and the 6 man for pgren and ignore bersegalir, get the battlegroup options that give vision and faster cap rate when near vehicles after you unlock carros, and dont ignore the last 2 CP arty ability its area denial anything within a circle gets hit with arty.
17 Feb 2024, 19:34 PM
#4
avatar of Katitof

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Flakvierling.

And defend it with your life, it depends on it.
17 Feb 2024, 21:49 PM
#5
avatar of Nickbn

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Is this an AI creating these posts? The text in the beginning is exactly the same as the other post about 2v2
18 Feb 2024, 08:00 AM
#6
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

As much as i think coh3 has improved, the comeback mechanics are impossible if you are DAK and going into late games. A massed Allies light tanks blob are impossible to deal with
18 Feb 2024, 11:44 AM
#7
avatar of donofsandiego

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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2024, 12:07 PMmrgame2
Why are they called Pgren without panzershreks now?


Because panzergren means panzergrenadier means "tank soldier" i.e. it's just a name for a mechaniced unit of grenadiers. Panzergren doesn't mean panzerschreck grenadier.
18 Feb 2024, 13:08 PM
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Because panzergren means panzergrenadier means "tank soldier" i.e. it's just a name for a mechaniced unit of grenadiers. Panzergren doesn't mean panzerschreck grenadier.

Exactly.
They should be tanks instead.
18 Feb 2024, 22:04 PM
#9
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2024, 21:49 PMNickbn
Is this an AI creating these posts? The text in the beginning is exactly the same as the other post about 2v2


Nah, just some Axis fanboy tool who thinks he's funny
18 Feb 2024, 22:12 PM
#10
avatar of NigelBallsworth

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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2024, 12:07 PMmrgame2
I've only just started playing this mode and seem to be having major problems. Are there specific strategies for this mode ? I've noticed I get shut down hard by early Allies infanty, Mg, and then into light vehicles, and USF zook ranger squads are tragically OP with wiping PGren. Scouts drop keeps decapping and long vision and defense arty

Why are they called Pgren without panzershreks now?


You missed the part where I mentioned early game, right ? That's ok, language is hard. One zook ranger squad is 1 CP + 260 + 200 + 100 munis, which gets you two weapons and no guarantee they'll be zooks. For that to even happen though, I'd have to choose barracks first instead of WSC where the MG comes from. While we're on the topic though, it's awesome that Axis can still flood the map with better and stronger units, including guastatori who seem to have no problem wiping any and all Allied infantry. Yes, decapping is important, something that your irritating little motorcycles excel at.

I hope this serves to clarify my post for you, provided you didn't get a headache from all the difficult words and concepts.
18 Feb 2024, 22:27 PM
#11
avatar of NigelBallsworth

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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Feb 2024, 08:00 AMmrgame2
As much as i think coh3 has improved, the comeback mechanics are impossible if you are DAK and going into late games. A massed Allies light tanks blob are impossible to deal with


Like the carro blobs, yes. Why don't you just say that ANY blobs are problematic ?
19 Feb 2024, 10:27 AM
#12
avatar of Willy Pete

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Mines dont do enough damage and AT rifles are useless against lights... You heard it here first boys and girls :rolleyes:
19 Feb 2024, 12:54 PM
#13
avatar of donofsandiego

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jump backJump back to quoted post18 Feb 2024, 13:08 PMKatitof

Exactly.
They should be tanks instead.


Exactly. Finally, DAK won't have to rely on Italian tanks.
22 Feb 2024, 07:47 AM
#14
avatar of KoRneY

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Combine a vet1 8rad with 3-4 carros (preferably vet 1) and watch in amazement

Add marders for insurance

Though that's not really all Italian anymore
28 Feb 2024, 08:19 AM
#15
avatar of mrgame2

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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Feb 2024, 19:34 PMKatitof
Flakvierling.

And defend it with your life, it depends on it.


Damnit they nerfed this unit while not making P3 much cheaper

Patch 1.5 made too many penalties on DAK
28 Feb 2024, 10:58 AM
#16
avatar of Katitof

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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Feb 2024, 08:19 AMmrgame2


Damnit they nerfed this unit while not making P3 much cheaper

Patch 1.5 made too many penalties on DAK


Tbh flak nerf isn't that bad. All it means is that it needs permanent escort of Pjagers, who are stronger now.

See what happened to L6, that thing DPS was gutted to the level of 250/9. They intend it to counter LVs, but they did nothing to its non existent penetration, what LVs is it supposed to counter? Dingos?
1 Mar 2024, 20:10 PM
#17
avatar of donofsandiego

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jump backJump back to quoted post28 Feb 2024, 10:58 AMKatitof


Tbh flak nerf isn't that bad. All it means is that it needs permanent escort of Pjagers, who are stronger now.

See what happened to L6, that thing DPS was gutted to the level of 250/9. They intend it to counter LVs, but they did nothing to its non existent penetration, what LVs is it supposed to counter? Dingos?


Yeah even I was wondering about this. They're going to decimate its performance against infantry and nerf the main gun accuracy and then not compensate by improving the AT capability at all??
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