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Thoughts on M18 Hellcat?

30 Nov 2021, 19:32 PM
#1
avatar of donofsandiego

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So far, I've been using it and it seems kinda lackluster/ unreliable against P4s. Additionally, supposedly the Tiger really does a number on them. Someone better at the game than me care to enlighten me on how I'm using them wrong or are they actually a bit lacking?
30 Nov 2021, 21:52 PM
#2
avatar of aerafield

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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)

They get two-shot by tigers atm :lol:
30 Nov 2021, 23:37 PM
#3
avatar of minhuh064

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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)

They get two-shot by tigers atm :lol:

They can be upgraded with 50 cal top gunner, research HVAP in Armor Support Center
1 Dec 2021, 01:15 AM
#4
avatar of JibberJabberJobber

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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)

They get two-shot by tigers atm :lol:


Gib all stats, don't tease like this. :foreveralone:
1 Dec 2021, 01:57 AM
#5
avatar of comm_ash
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They also lack even enough pen to pen the front of a P4 consistently, and are not really that mobile in comparison to other tanks when not using flanking speed. I would like to see more stats before I can be sure that it needs a buff, but it is sorely lacking as USF's sole lategame AT vehicle. (Especially when you don't even have HVAP rounds unless you choose to go for the mechanized support building.)
1 Dec 2021, 02:02 AM
#6
avatar of Applejack

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Feels like Coh2 M10. You use it to crush infantry with the added bonus of being able to tickle some cats.
2 Dec 2021, 01:57 AM
#7
avatar of GiaA

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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)

They get two-shot by tigers atm :lol:


do you know the pen values of hellcat and sherman?
2 Dec 2021, 06:27 AM
#8
avatar of RedT3rror

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They are terrible. If you compare them to shermans, they cost 20 fuel less and deal 160 instead of 120 damage, but they have the same weapon range, no anti inf, and way less hitpoints (480 vs 800 HP)

They get two-shot by tigers atm :lol:


It's the old Jackson all over again. lol
2 Dec 2021, 10:49 AM
#9
avatar of donofsandiego

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They also lack even enough pen to pen the front of a P4 consistently


This, I think, would be forgivable so long as the Hellcat can pen side armor easier. All things considered, front armor is now roughly 25% or less of what you can actually hit on a tank.

Also, is it just me or do rear armor hits seem to do extra damage?
2 Dec 2021, 12:25 PM
#10
avatar of aerafield

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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Dec 2021, 01:57 AMGiaA


do you know the pen values of hellcat and sherman?


Nope I dont.

I expect the Hellcat to have more penetration but still, in my opinion you have way better chances atm if you just spam shermans
2 Dec 2021, 15:11 PM
#11
avatar of donofsandiego

Posts: 1295

I don't know. I mean theoretically it's the perfect counter to a turtling opponent. Cheap AT tank that can be artillery with vet. The big issue is the lower HP and exact same range like was mentioned earlier.

EDIT: Also that "long range ambush" ability extends the range, though I haven't been able to make good use of it because I tend to see P4 spam from my friends I play customs with haha.
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