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Panzer IV Command Tank

9 Mar 2020, 11:01 AM
#41
avatar of Stormjäger

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It was suggested when they tuned down the bonus from 20%. But basically teamgame people complained.


Why not make it 20% your own units and 5-10% for allied units?
9 Mar 2020, 13:52 PM
#42
avatar of A Furry Wehraboo

Posts: 56

Thanks for the feedback guys. :)

So maybe this vehicle is strong in team games but weaker in smaller games
9 Mar 2020, 14:08 PM
#43
avatar of Vipper

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Thanks for the feedback guys. :)

So maybe this vehicle is strong in team games but weaker in smaller games


Currently it is weak in all modes...
9 Mar 2020, 15:14 PM
#44
avatar of A Furry Wehraboo

Posts: 56

jump backJump back to quoted post9 Mar 2020, 14:08 PMVipper


Currently it is weak in all modes...


Well I think it would be cool if it came with armour skirts but that's just me
9 Mar 2020, 16:33 PM
#45
avatar of Widerstreit

Posts: 1162



Why not make it 20% your own units and 5-10% for allied units?


+1

Maybe 5-10% normal aura and then an ability to increase for e.g. 20sec to 20%.
9 Mar 2020, 16:36 PM
#46
avatar of JibberJabberJobber

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CP4 would be fine if it had no CP requirement, so it could become a decent alternative to the Ostwind. Less AI for better AT, armor, veterancy (arguably) and an aura on top of that.

But suggested improvements like aura improving with veterancy / stronger bonus for player, smaller bonus for allies / rework to a stronger timed ability / supportive abilities like smoke shell or small barrage could also work as more complicated measures to make the CP4 attractive again.
9 Mar 2020, 16:38 PM
#47
avatar of Stormjäger

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The best solution imo is to keep the aura at 10% DR and simply convert it from a Panzer IV F1 into a Panzer IV F2.
9 Mar 2020, 16:50 PM
#48
avatar of JibberJabberJobber

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The best solution imo is to keep the aura at 10% DR and simply convert it from a Panzer IV F1 into a Panzer IV F2.


"Let's remove a unique unit from the game" :foreveralone:

9 Mar 2020, 16:54 PM
#49
avatar of Stormjäger

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"Let's remove a unique unit from the game" :foreveralone:



Elp0rn agrees with me Kappa Kappa Kappa

If they wanna keep it unique, they could just make its shells HE with the same stats as the M4 and keep it with basically 0 AT and all anti infantry.
9 Mar 2020, 21:15 PM
#50
avatar of WingZero

Posts: 1484

TBH in large team games this tank is meh and only used as a defense buff tank parked behind the army.
9 Mar 2020, 22:00 PM
#51
avatar of A Furry Wehraboo

Posts: 56

TBH in large team games this tank is meh and only used as a defense buff tank parked behind the army.


That makes sense. I doubt you would really focus on fighting with such a tank in big team games so keeping in staying in the back all the time would be best
9 Mar 2020, 22:51 PM
#52
avatar of Vipper

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That makes sense. I doubt you would really focus on fighting with such a tank in big team games so keeping in staying in the back all the time would be best

Paying 12 pop and upkeep in the mean time...
10 Mar 2020, 00:35 AM
#53
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Posts: 199

jump backJump back to quoted post9 Mar 2020, 22:51 PMVipper

Paying 12 pop and upkeep in the mean time...

Wow, 12 whole popcap? for a perma buff that allows most of your and your teammates units to take 1 extra hit? What nonsense I say!

As long as it affects everyone on your team it shouldn't go anywere. If it goes the way of the UKF command vehicle then yeah, it deserves a solid buff
10 Mar 2020, 08:31 AM
#54
avatar of Vipper

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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Mar 2020, 00:35 AMMusti

Wow, 12 whole popcap? for a perma buff that allows most of your and your teammates units to take 1 extra hit? What nonsense I say!

As long as it affects everyone on your team it shouldn't go anywere. If it goes the way of the UKF command vehicle then yeah, it deserves a solid buff

The range of the aura is 45 saying it effect most of the units in a team game is simply an exaggeration.
10 Mar 2020, 14:05 PM
#55
avatar of Musti

Posts: 199

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Mar 2020, 08:31 AMVipper

The range of the aura is 45 saying it effect most of the units in a team game is simply an exaggeration.

I mean most units as in type of unit (since some don't get that +1 hit benefit), not most on the map.
Not that keeping a support unit within 45 range of units on the frontline is rocket science beyond the skill level of anyone.
10 Mar 2020, 14:10 PM
#56
avatar of Stormjäger

Posts: 2638

jump backJump back to quoted post10 Mar 2020, 08:31 AMVipper

The range of the aura is 45 saying it effect most of the units in a team game is simply an exaggeration.


It’s an Axis unit, even 5 range is broken OP.
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