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Is USF cluster bomb too unbalanced now?

29 Oct 2019, 04:06 AM
#21
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

soviet ptab also sucks

looking at the video

Light arty barrage 100 muni
CB 110 muni
Frag 180 muni
Ptab 180 muni
IL2 bomb 200 muni


I think should be this way

CB 160 muni
Frag 160 muni
Ptab 160 muni
29 Oct 2019, 07:55 AM
#22
avatar of ullumulu

Posts: 2243

it is abused so many times in high rank games because its dirty cheap and has huge area...comes really fast and is a no brainer and needs so less skill to use.

other thing is the underperforming from flames drop from ost planes. it is so less effective compared to the same cost ability from sovjets which comes as a drop in fire shell
29 Oct 2019, 07:59 AM
#23
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17887 | Subs: 8

jump backJump back to quoted post29 Oct 2019, 04:06 AMmrgame2
soviet ptab also sucks

looking at the video

Light arty barrage 100 muni
CB 110 muni
Frag 180 muni
Ptab 180 muni
IL2 bomb 200 muni


I think should be this way

CB 160 muni
Frag 160 muni
Ptab 160 muni


PTAB is AT strike tho.
29 Oct 2019, 11:01 AM
#24
avatar of Stug life

Posts: 4474

jump backJump back to quoted post29 Oct 2019, 04:06 AMmrgame2
soviet ptab also sucks

looking at the video

Light arty barrage 100 muni
CB 110 muni
Frag 180 muni
Ptab 180 muni
IL2 bomb 200 muni


I think should be this way

CB 160 muni
Frag 160 muni
Ptab 160 muni
ptab is bugged, it used to insta kill heavy , i think they switched the explosive for the frag with the spaghetti code
4 Nov 2019, 01:39 AM
#25
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

So are we going to see changes to cb and ir arty before the weekend big games?

They are too meta for USF players
4 Nov 2019, 04:44 AM
#26
avatar of Toxicfirebal

Posts: 66

jump backJump back to quoted post29 Oct 2019, 04:06 AMmrgame2
soviet ptab also sucks

looking at the video

Light arty barrage 100 muni
CB 110 muni
Frag 180 muni
Ptab 180 muni
IL2 bomb 200 muni


I think should be this way

CB 160 muni
Frag 160 muni
Ptab 160 muni

CB should be cheaper than frag considering frag can wipe anything on the map edge.
4 Nov 2019, 04:47 AM
#27
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

I disagree. Frag is more easy to avoid and covers smaller area
Damages wise seem about the same, wipe team weapons and infantry if you don't gtfo
4 Nov 2019, 11:10 AM
#28
avatar of achpawel

Posts: 1351


CB should be cheaper than frag considering frag can wipe anything on the map edge.


Cluster bombs can also wipe anything on the map edge.
5 Nov 2019, 11:09 AM
#29
avatar of Toxicfirebal

Posts: 66



Cluster bombs can also wipe anything on the map edge.


I mean that frag bombs fly in so far is impossible to dodge when deployed at the map edge while cluster bombs are avoidable.
5 Nov 2019, 13:07 PM
#30
avatar of achpawel

Posts: 1351



I mean that frag bombs fly in so far is impossible to dodge when deployed at the map edge while cluster bombs are avoidable.


I understand. Yet when you place clusters well, their area of effect is so wide that it can't be avoided.
6 Nov 2019, 14:23 PM
#31
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Definitely should be at least 140 munitions with either damage reduction or decreasing its area of effect.OST frag bombs are 180, while they do similar damage, it’s harder to use due to small, linear area of effect.

OKW has the 200mm rocket barrage which costs almost double, does less damage, comes in 8 seconds late and has a tiny area of effect. Makes no sense to give USF such powerful offmaps
7 Nov 2019, 06:21 AM
#32
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

Bump for balance team. Cb nerf when? In fact cb and ir arty in same doctrine is so delicious. Way better than wehr cas, which got nerf hard
7 Nov 2019, 10:37 AM
#33
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Posts: 1351

Definitely should be at least 140 munitions with either damage reduction or decreasing its area of effect.OST frag bombs are 180, while they do similar damage, it’s harder to use due to small, linear area of effect.

OKW has the 200mm rocket barrage which costs almost double, does less damage, comes in 8 seconds late and has a tiny area of effect. Makes no sense to give USF such powerful offmaps


My favourite nonsensical off map is railway arty. Just expensive and of extremely limited use.
7 Nov 2019, 11:43 AM
#34
avatar of Support Sapper

Posts: 1220 | Subs: 1



My favourite nonsensical off map is railway arty. Just expensive and of extremely limited use.


Agree, railway sometimes cant reliably destroy a braced emplacement. Also, i have the same issue with the "concentration fire operation" from special weapons regiment.
7 Nov 2019, 13:37 PM
#36
avatar of SupremeStefan

Posts: 1220

Increase price less miness increase damage plane speed can stay and make it able to destroy lefh and we gut
7 Nov 2019, 13:53 PM
#37
avatar of achpawel

Posts: 1351

Generally all offmaps could be reviewed and priced more intuitively. Like more power, higher the expense.
9 Nov 2019, 10:21 AM
#38
avatar of mrgame2

Posts: 1794

Bump for muni increase of CB! Too cheap maga.
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