Profile of ferwiner

I agree. These are great, old style maps.

What on earth are you on about, this isn't just 'some' players these are the best players in the world playing the game as efficiently as they can on the best maps we have....

you now have 151 games in your data set.

It satisfies any quality or quantity measurement you need.

You will never get a better opportunity to judge faction strength in 1v1 than this.

I agree that there will never be better data set than that. Sadly, it still doesn't get any close to being enough to conclude anything. You might have 151 games, which is very little for the number of parameters involved, but even that is divided between 6 types of matchups. You also have as little as around 32 players, which is a very small population. A population way too small to remove individual bias. Especially as results and strategies of these 32 players are highly correlated.

All in all data gathered this way can only show current state of the meta, which is what people think the game is and which we by definition know a lot of, but it is very far from showing anything about true power of the factions. And even further from giving hints for informed ballance decisions.

I'm not saying that statistics has no way to work in coh2. For example the automatch veto stats were very interesting and the dataset was big enough, even if the results were highly misinterpreted. But the size and quality (correlations) of this particualar set is truly laughable if you would like to prove anything with it.

EDIT: Forgot one thing. The map pool is obviously even smaller than the player population. The good thing is that it has much less correlation. The bad one is that its tiny size induces additional bias, that highly reduces the confidence level of any conclusions drawn for maps that were not included in the tournament map set. And we can't really ballance the game for tournament maps only, can we?

Biggest thing is, brits were a faction that lacked a lot of basic stuff(mortars, non doc mobile rocket arty, vehicle snare, no reliable light if you went for bofors to name a few) and relied on gimmicks to make up for it.

Modders decided it would somehow make them balanced if they have removed or nerfed to the very ground every singular thing brits relied on without giving them anything from the basic mandatory kit.

Couple the two and you have a perfect recipe for underpowered trash faction.

That is the design standpoint and I don't disagree with that. The point is, there is no need to mix statistics into that, especially if the data set is small and biased for obvious reasons.

Statistical significance is truly a huge problem here. We have around 30 players that are so good, they are almost sure to beat anybody out of this club in tournament setting.

If you try to increase the number of players, you quickly lose on match quality and once you go past top 200 you start to get players who don't even know all the mechanics they can use. This means the data past that point is pretty much worthless. So it is safer to take only best players, especially as the others could also get on that level if they committed so much time.

You can try to increase the number of observations, but as the number of players is so small, it is always going to be biased towards that particular group. If there was some other parallel control group, it would surely seize completely different results.

That means any stat based, or community vote based game ballancing is just a monte carlo method run in multidimensional space of coh2 stats with "ballance" as a hard to define objective function...

In more humanly sounding words, it is simply completely random. We can change the stats, and so the ballance, but we can never be sure that the direction is right.

OP you can't actually be serious? YOu pay 280 manpower and 30 fuel for a emplacment that shreds infantry , .ight vehicles, armoured vehicles and even tanks in a 360 degree arc. If that wasn't enough its got super armour as well as an artillery feature along with AA abilities.

I repeat again 280 manpower and 30 fuel.

THis unit should not be in the game at all and should be removed.

The key here is the word "emplacement". Its inability to move means that it is very easy to kill, so the cost is approperiate.

Btw, when was the last time you have seen a bofors in coh2 match? I think I haven't seen a single one since brace nerf.