I can't help but laugh a bit. Do you even need an AT gun to counter a 222? Put a squad on cover and the 222 will just run around and make noise and do almost nothing.
And I can't help but laugh at arguments like these.
2x222 can park in front of garrisoned maxis at point blank range and destroy it before 222 will lose half HP.
Squads without access to AT nades can be just rushed and forced to retreat with 222 not loosing even 25% of health.
Only the vanilla 251 is more worthless vs infantry.
True, however vanila 251 is not supposed to deal damage in the first place and 222 up close can not be ignored, brits, vet0 rifles and penal heavy soviets before guards arrive can't force it off.
So 2-3 222's can counter an unsupported T70 or an AEC, big whoop, manpower is the issue here.
M20 with upgrade vs 222? Still, M20 is almost purely AI, so we can skip this if we ignore zook crew.
Greyhound vs 222?
AEC is native hardcounter for lights below puma, its costs are much greater then a pair of 222s, yet it got nothing on them.
The T70 can run around and deny entire sides of the map or else face having your squads wiped on retreat.
I don't have problem with a pair of 222s routing T70.
Its the cost of these 222s that makes it questionable.
When was the last time anyone had to retreat a full squad from a 222?
Every time there was a game between T1 soviets and ost or non bofors brits vs ost.
Meanwhile you've invested how much manpower in 222's vs a single T70?
I may lean to agree that 220mp may be worth 40fuel in performance, but there is no excuse for AEC(getting just 1 is tremendous cost, especially in menpower) or 1v1 situation vs upgraded greyhound.
A T70 that can actually drain your MP while the 222's drain nothing but the will to live from your pios as you have to repair them every 60 seconds from small arms.
Please stop being so fixated on T70, there are other lights which 222 owns for the cost effortlessly.
Then a single AT gun arrives, one which you can circle if you so desire but dont plan on decrewing it anytime soon. Calling the 222 OP is just lol. When it arrives it has a viable lifespan of maybe 2 minutes before its obsoleted and you surely can't say the same for the AEC or T70 or Stuart. The only time its more than meh is for spotting scope maphax which will likely be fixed someday pending lelic.
By your logic, should we decrease costs of M3, M20 or Greuhound? Their time of relevance is comparable, yet they cost much more and are hardly excelling in their roles without heavy infantry support as well.
You are really underestimating what 222 can do.
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