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Riflemen m1 to Bar DPS 0/5/10/15/20/25/30/35

M1 5.4/4.7/3.5/2.7/2.3/1.9/1.6/1.4

Bar 10.6/10.6/6.2/5.2/4.7/4.2/3.4/3.2

Ratio 196%/225%/177%/192%/247%/213%/229%
(Cruzz)

m1_garand_rifle_rifleman_mp 6.8/5.8/4.3/3.4/2.8/2.3/2.0/1.7
riflemen_bar_30_06_light_machine_gun_mp 14.0/14.0/10.5/8.0/7.0/6.0/5.2/4.4

ratio 2.07/2.39/2.41/2.35/2.49/2.57/2.61/2.61
(Firesparks)

So I would say that bars do excel at long range.

Remember that back in the day, LMGs had a different dps profile to what they do have now and having 2 on rifles created all range dps monster.

Bars while potent, play to units intended ranges, which you will see if you now compare the total DPS of the squad instead of creating perception bias.
(going to pick only close, far and mid value for simplicity)
5x M1 garand: 34 / 14 / 8,5
With 2x bar: 48 / 22,4 / 13,9
Which translates to: 141% / 160% / 163%

Unfortunately I do not have old m1919 values saved, so I'll work with current one, assuming 2x are possible:

5x M1 garand: 34 / 14 / 8,5
With 2x M1919: 33,6 / 25,6 / 23,9

Which translates to:little over 1% dps decrease at cqc / 183% / 281%.

Do you start to see a slight difference between max range DPS increase for dual BARs and dual LMGs?
BARs provide consistent DPS increase across all ranges with similar DPS increase ratio at every range, they are strengthening rifles base curve at a hefty cost of 120 muni.

Now, do you see what dual LMGs did? Specifically to max range?
Its a complete alteration of base squad DPS curve, not increasing it, but making it more flat-changing the units role to literally Tommies on steroids, very effective at all ranges.

Bars are good at long range, but hardly excel compared to dual M1919.
Hell, 2x BARs are still weaker then a singular M1919 at long range. I'd say that fact alone points out that they hardly excel at long range, if we take into account impact of DPS curve with both.

That is why M1919 were limited to 1 and BARs were not.

Riflemen are designed for mid range not close.

Please do not state your personal opinions as facts.

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Finally this thread about the XP values of units if you want to debate accuracy of TDs there another appropriate thread about the accuracy of TDs where you can give your theories why FF needs more mid range than the majority of units.

You are hilarious.
Here, let me Quote a post that started it:

FF performance vs mediums is dependent on tulip it can kill a medium in 1 reload if both land.

It also has the longest mid range and it should be changed.

You are literally arguing and scolding yourself here.

Pls elaborate why in your opinion the firefly should have more mid range than JP, SU-85, M36, JT and Elephant.

In addition it does not longest reload, Elephant and JT have longer reload while having far worse accuracy.

Once more FF reload is counter weighted by tulips.

Lowest DPS TD in the game should reliably hit its targets.
JP got much higher dps, self spotting, camo and decent armor and protection from infantry that can snare tanks.
SU-85 got much higher dps, self spotting and protection from infantry that can snare tanks.
M36 got much higher dps and protection from infantry that can snare tanks, its also much faster.
JT and Elephant got much higher dps, are indestructible frontally by any armor and protected by infantry that can snare tanks.

it can easily deal with p4...

would be underpowered if it couldnt

and can even deal with panther...what do you talk about

I think you are off your pills again.

wow "your argument is invalid cause i don't like tha u put more 0 on the axis side" u hit a new lvl of fanboyism dude, is this the new AAA account ?

Well, that additional 0 near allied values literally serves no purpose other then visual bloating of the exact same value.