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No they are designed vs KT. They do not need so high penetration to deal with Panther.

They also aren't getting their pen reduced, because to address that, panther got health increase.

Imo one start by reducing the effectiveness all long range TDs.

That might include lower accuracy at max range and lower reload at max range.

And how would allies counter panther then?

The real problem is that Ost doesn't have a 60 range TD let alone a 60 range TD with good penetration and RoF like the Su85 and Jackson. OKW basically has a 60 range well armored Stug. The only 200+ pen axis stock tank is a slow shooting 50 range "premium" tank that's locked away in a premium tier for Ost. The Allies have more variety when it comes to heavy armor especially Soviets. In reality, Axis, especially Ost has the most trouble in dealing with heavy allied armor as Stug is only 50 range and panther is locked in T4. OKW has it slightly better as JP4 has 60 range although low pen and panther is much more accessible.

Well, you can start petitioning for removal of panther in favor of buffing StuG.
Panther doesn't even need to be replaced! We can just make the tier cheaper, so it'll be easier to call-in heavies and get remaining units.

Because as long as panther exists, neither ost nor okw will ever get long range td with high pen that isn't doctrinal super heavy.

I think the Ostwind from Scavenge doctrine should get the Valentine treatment. Called in at 6CP, but only one can be on the field.

Medium vehicle at time when only lights roam screams overpowered.
Especially if its such a powerful unit.

I'm forking this off from the other thread because it's a very different proposal.

In the last patch cycle, it was suggested to put to the Jagdpanzer IV, Flame Hetzer and Ostwind in the SPHQ at the same timing as Obersoldaten: before the Panzer Authorisation upgrade.

When the split was initially proposed several months ago, the split was intended to be JPIV and Obers before, then P4s and P5s after the upgrade.

You have any info on that?
Because if it wasn't being tested, then its not true(genuinely don't remember, we have other people who spent all their time reading patch notes over, who are more then happy to rush in with copy paste from the notes for me to care at this point).

This is an undeniable buff to the OKW faction, but it has a number of internal benefits to the teching structure:

• The JPIV's role is further distinguished from the Panther by having a different timing window.
  
• The Battlegroup build becomes more viable as it gets an AT vehicle 60 FU earlier.
  
• If OKW loses the SPHQ, rebuilding half of it and calling in Jagdpanzers is a viable option. Currently the most cost effective option is stalling for the KT.

To know if its a good idea, compare the costs to costs of getting same archetype vehicle of other factions.

1) JP4 role is already very distinguished from panther, because JP4 has much easier job picking of meds and countering TDs then panther does while having much better scaling overall.
2) That might result in rushes shutting med tank play before anyone else can get a med out.
3) Risk vs reward, it was discussed to death, you are afraid of losing schwerer, don't put it outside of your base sector.

I also think the Flame Hetzer being pre-Authorisation would be a neat buff to the underused Feuersturm doctrine, and its lack of any AT capability means it can be countered with light vehicles available in its timing window.

Puppchens were removed from the game?
You're trading ability to stomp allied armor for ability to stomp allied infantry. Up to you to decide which is more valuable for you, because flame hetzer frankly lacks absolutely nothing and is utterly devastating when protected from tanks.