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The dates are 1944- this is when the Wehr was digging the bottom of the barrel, and sending 17 year olds with marginal training to the front. German losses were huge, and skyrocketed in 44'.

It is notable that the NCO with the EK I has the highly respected close combat clasp. This was probably the most respected award among infantry combat troops. The three versions: 15 close combat actions, 25 close combat actions, then 50 close combat actions.

Very few combat troops survived 15 close combat actions to get the close combat clasp, let alone the close combat clasp in gold..(50)

I think that the Zis (thanks to speed increase) is fine but it falters against the improved AI of the Tiger (which kills 1 or 2 entities per shot)- Two Zis guns ambushing the Tiger will be destroyed by the Tiger with a few rounds. This makes taking on a tiger a combined arms show.

The Wehr, police units, and SS succeeded in de-populating the USSR west of Leningrad, Rzhev, and Stalingrad by up to 20 million using terror tactics. Cities devastated..Towns and villages were removed off the map. Generalplan Ost, deportation/forced labor, human shields/hostage taking, killing most red army POWs, concentration camps, Collateral damage, robbery & starvation, genocide, use of biological warfare and mass murders. Scorched earth tactics. The SS co-opted the German police battalions of the east to the point where the police force/anti-partisan army became a de-facto part of the SS, and executed SS racial policies.

The Red Army troops, while moving westward and removing the Axis from vast areas Soviet territory starting from the summer of 1943 (Orel, Kharkov-B offensive) started to discover more and more the effects of the de-population and the suffering of the civilians in these areas.

By the time they reached Germany, many were quite vengeful for the horrors that were inflicted upon their country and their families, so indiscipline rose in areas (rape, looting, pow shooting, etc.) But at no time did these crimes rival that of the Wehrmacht in scale. There was also indiscipline on their own territory and in other eastern nations but these were relatively petty compared to what the Nazis did. The Soviets, as ruthless as they were towards their political enemies, did not carry out a race war.

To go further, the strategic bombing campaign by the Western Allies killed most of the German civilians in WW2, not the Red Army. The German armed forces were the greatest murderers of civilians of WW2. There is no moral equivalence between the Soviets & the Nazis + their enablers.

Anyway, I should reconsider posting about WW2 on a videogame website..

If we leave the timeframe to just the war itself, the atrocities of the red army pale in terms of scale compared to the Wehrmacht.

There is no comparison- one army did it sometimes, the other did it all the time. This is why the German civilian death toll caused by the Red Army is so comparatively low. 100 times less or more.

This is why East front movies have so many war crime depictions imo.

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Straw man claim

20 million civilian dead.