Profile of rumartinez89

Played this guy before, had him on the backfoot until P4J hit the field and he cameback.

Started game with engi, built T1 and rushed clown car. I had a feeling we would go for same gas. He forced my initial engi to retreat car, came to push him back while engi and penal cleaned up. I pretty much punished him early game until he got my flamer clown car out of position. I have more gas so I rushed out T70 got a wipe with penal back up but he killed T70 with Puma.

I get out Dshka and pretty much ignore his puma and keep map control. I get out T34 out first and keep bullying his infantry. Little by little becomes a tank race. He gets P4J and I have 3 T34, lose 1 trying to kill his tank so I break away and get Puma. Little by Little he trades his infantry for Obers, which puzzles me due to feeling like he shouldn't have as much mp as he does. He ends up stealing MG, I steal rak, he kills tanks I kill some.

Score is 100 - 400 in my favor but he pulls comeback now.

Even though I have map I am really low on MP so he claws back with Tiger and Obers which are trading efficiently. I make Katy to try and get some wipes to slow him down but don't get to much. I keep poking back and forth but my T34 decide to literally hit everything but mg/obers/rak when I catch them out of position. He eventually pushes me back to base with Tiger and P4J while also decrewing my 120 mortar which got to VET3. I am super frustrated now since despite him losing several units he seems to be able to maintain pressure.

At this point I think he either underestimated my tank forces or got cocky so I catch him out of position. Get both Tiger and P4J while losing 2 T34. He is severely undermanned now so we keep attacking middle point in waves since he has around 18 points and I have around 60. I get a few more wipes while he get a panther out, he uses it to runover troops but it doesn't do much with its main gun which allows me to cap and force him to come to me. I go all in to hold on to VP and get the win.


After watching the replay it looks like most of my MP bleed came from T34 underperformance, took 5 to kill 2 P4J and Puma.
We were trading pretty evenly inf wise which is a win for me due to reinforce cost.
Penal with stolen LMG is good, Penal with X2 LMG is an inf squad eraser.
Should have rushed T34, T70 requires a lot more baby sitting to pay off.
P4J seems to overperform for cost compared to Panther, more due to armor than the gun.

EDIT: Just realized I beat a top 100 player, feeling pretty good.

Looked at his commanders and I assumed he would go Ostruppen, so I wanted mg and mortar to bleed and slow him down.
Little did I know, he went with Ostruppen Commander but only made Pioneer.

Start the game 2 engi to clown car to try and bleed his ostrupp before they fight with Penals. As I am capping I see he pushes my cutoff with 2 pioneers which I fight back with using car and 2 engi. Beat them back repair and fight yet another Pioneer squad. On the other side my penal almost got wiped by 2 pioneers. At this point I am wondering what the hell is going on. He pushes my cutoff again with 3 i think but I caught him unaware and got a satchel wipe. I am now hiding my clown car since he is most likely rushing a Scout car which comes out at about 5 mins. At this point I have an mg and just punish him back and control decent map so I flank him with Penal squad and rush his scout car. He was trying to build a 2nd but I think he felt it would go the same way since he has no way to push me back.

GG

Weird build that might have worked if I went with standard Conscript opening. Doubling a conscript squad would be devastating.
Also assuming he was going to use call in for team weapons but he was losing to much for it to work out.

Anyone else see someone try this.

I feel the biggest issue the AT has is the other ammo range is horrible. Therefore it is hard to pay for itself in just AT performance.

so 2cps and pgrens with clowncar is alright timing. Most elite infantry are 2cps, so It is all good. I guess you might have Pgrens before BP1, but this strat has a downside of delaying your 222. Also even if you active enough and get 2 cps before having resources for BP1, you still won't win a lot of time, but you get a very late Clowncar with slightly early Pgrens.
BTW the guy you played against could go BP1 even before he could build a that party bus

About replay:
I think you understood that 2 engies into clownlar does not work if you have no munies, no point into.
I agree with Donnie the medic timing was late. With penal build I would have an itch to build Medics when I saw that 4men almost 10% Hp squad. That's like instant +100MP into -200mp upgrade.
Also PPsH penals? Do they work? Very weird upgrade for a squad that has SVTs. maybe it synergizes great with penals passive, no clue really, but they never worked for me and I was spamming Airborne for more then a year and a half

Thanks, I only make one and it is totally dependent on still having clown car alive. Most players don't expect it so easy wipes or wipes when chasing. SVT are better overall, but they don't wipe as well. I use airborne for LMG for long range damage so it works out well. However there is no indirect which can mess you up.

Your thinking applies to this map, in Langranska where muni and gas have same cutoff, you cannot efficiently counter it. They are not worried about scout car because you wont have a vehicle.
EDIT: Like you said he had enough to BP1 but didn't since it wasn't needed. That hoarding of resources due to no BP1 or T1 lets the player keep massive pressure going and can technically bring in a 2nd one to close game out.


Again I didn't save the better replay. In that one, which was a different opponent, he only capped enough to connect MID VP to his base so that he could build a reinforcement bunker. He made no attempt to CAP rest of map. He kept pressure on me and brought in the PG. It doesn't matter that it is LATE, what matters is no counter is available. IF I had gone T2, it would be to early for AT gun, the only way I can think of countering it is with conscript SPAM and hope retreats happen.

For the better OST players, give it a try specifically on Langranska and give your thoughts.

Well, that is the point of the commander.
Also, he does need BP1 to build Pgrens, just not the building (iirc).



This is rather a L2P issue than a balance issue.

I know that he does not need the building, the point I am making is that this commander allows him to call-in PG without needing BP1. The added benefit of not needing to waste resources on T1 means that the player doesn't need to focus on map control and can rush straight at you. The fighting allows the CP build which then lets the player call in the PG/clowncar which will not have a natural counter at this point.