Could you elaborate why you think that there is some kind of "accumulation" over time that makes it worse?
It could be something within the Relic server infrastructure, then the CoH community could do nothing about it. If however it has something to do with properties of the map, then the only way the error "accumulates" would be if the map always gets downloaded from Relic servers for reworking, or am I wrong here?
How do custom maps behave? I don't think the maps in the workshop get compiled by Relic as well, so we should not see any error or accumulation there?
I am quite interested why you think that the issue will become worse with further patching.
Every patch they recompile the entire game.
Any community updates to maps = recompile of those maps specifically.
Each recompile = more ui bugs across more maps with more frequency |
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“ITs oNLy oN vILsHaNkA” and “IT DoEsN’t dO iT On otHEr MApS”
Yet since this has become a prominent and well known topic, I’ve tried to tell people with each patch it spreads to other maps with more and more regularity.
This is a Relic bug and has something to do with the recompiling/uploading process that they do. It is only going to get worse as the patches roll out and the community works on any of the maps. |
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I haven't looked but if it has a lot of buildings it could also be a bugged building or a mission building conflicting. |
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Sure, fair enough. I don't know why some people expect me to be amicable to them when they've openly and reptitively trashed on work that I and others I respect have done. They spend paragraphs of text, or minutes on end of speech, insulting us and then somehow act surprised when I form the opinion that they're, frankly, complete assholes and then treat them accordingly. Anyway, you've moved past this issue, so I will too.
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And I guess it's this kind of mentality that makes map updates a waste of time?
It is exactly why. Most players will not play an updated map or hell, even new maps. One of the peculiar things you’ll notice is the few people that are playing new maps (I’m talking week or release) have extremely higher than average spectators. People will not risk their epeen (playercard), and when they finally do, if thy lose on it, it’s trash, win, it’s great! Very few people are able to get based these initial emotional responses of a win or loss so they will just outright avoid them entirely. Leading to old maps most people seem to universally hate being in the most played still.
Also in replying on mobile, so this is not all of what there is to say, and it’s most likely ramble-y. |
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Arnhem is one of the least vetoed for a few reasons. It’s an old map (the evil you know). It has no snow (I swear 90% of the community is playing on a communal toaster). It is a absuable. |
Yes mate, and for the record I am aware that you and RickieRifle both have maps that could equally have been featured.
Apologies that they weren't added, I had to be a bit careful finding the balance between map cup and full fledged 1v1 tourney etc.
Rickies map needs the testing more IMO. Orangepest had his tested quite a bit in SMC, unless there was one he made himself that I didn't see. I'll have to check out the VOD to see how these maps played out. Thanks for featuring some maps in this.  |
Ploiet is probably my least favourite map. It feels a bit stretched, with the middle more or less as a container and then the sides quite far away, resulting in long retreat path. The buildings are too bulky and meaningless, offering little strategic options and windows to shoot out of. The base MGs cover and important flaking route in the middle (towards the bush). I am not a fan of VPs acting as cutoffs. The important fuel and munition points could also be moved a bit more towards the center, as they are so far to the edge of the map, stretching 1v1 engagements quite thin. By opening up that corridor behind the buildings and moving the resources point a bit closer to the center aswell as adjusting the VPs to not act as cutoffs this could improve the map.
Not sure how much you have played Ploiesti, please take a look  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJFm4vMdHNc
Either you linked the wrong video (feb is the date), or I'm not getting it. Regardless of what is talked about in the video, that entire paragraph is about them playing your map and providing feedback.
Also this:
For the love of fucking do not under any circumstance let this garbage map known as polesti go into automatch *or* the fucking finals, it is beyond garbge. It's for one way to small and the fundamentals are so warped that fixing one issue causes another thirty, you get rid of the hedge and now schwer will cover everything, you don't and now if you fuck up agaisnt a really good player he can hide a shock squad near the hedge. It has no flow, the dynamics just force dumb cheese. Maybe im biased but it flows awkardly the map isnt fun to play on for me and never has.
But maybe thats just a light salting.
Pretty much every person i've done scrims or played tournaments with or even talked to barring one person has called it stupid and shit.
(For the record it has some nice ideas but they end up being buggy or simply not really workable such as the buildings which are buggy as all hell with the pathing and the cut off vps which makes the map flow really weirdly)
+1
It's also very center focused with how the base exits are designed and with how open the center is, which tends to lead to MG spam. Also, my units often either don't walk to the closest door of a garrison or the pathing freaks out and the order gets cancelled.
I'm just confused as to what saying "check out this video that's 2 months old" has to do with their feedback on the version they played a few days ago is. |
Not sure how much you have played Ploiesti, please take a look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJFm4vMdHNc
Did...did you even read his post? |
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