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Somebody I think suggested a OKW-like commander upgrade for the Pershing, why not also have a .50 cal one as well which is exclusive, unless both can be fitted on top of the turret like with the Churchill and you gain one through vet and the other you gotta upgrade.

Along with a self-repair ability it seems reasonable if it's still lacking even with the attempt to lower it's repair time.

Also maybe an ability like the Soviet tanks/British Raid Operations to capture points which you can get with vet as well since it's one feature that's gone without the tank crew being able to dismount?

Just throwing some ideas out there.

It would be funny if they brought back Allied War Machine from vCOH where you could replace the lost tanks with muni.

The Pershing is a joke for a "heavy" tank.

Issues with the Pershing:

1. Skill shot sucks - windup seems longer than Tulips and even Tulips stun and act as a snare allowing more AT shots on the opposing tank.

2. Barely wins against a panther on a one v one.

3. Lackluster performance against infantry.

4. Commander it comes with lacks no off-map artillery ability to harass or punish ENY heavy infantry and AT gunplay.

5. No get out of jail abilities/smoke or blitzkrieg (must be nice to have that vet one ability)

6. Can not act as a mobile pillbox


Honestly, a big problem with USF is it lacks endgame units that allow it to have a competitive advantage over the axis fraction.

Combined Arms play with T1 and T2 is punished hard by STOCK axis rocket artillery

Stock riflemen are destroyed by long-range shooting axis infantry before they can get close to get good damage (BARS) Grens, Obers, and even PGs augmented with G34s.

Stock Anti-Tank capabilities are moot.
1. AT Gun that requires MUNI to consistently PEN
2. Bazooka bounce
3. M36 offers reliable AT but is easily countered by 2x ATGs with screening axis infantry, also can be chased down and killed by PV4 and panthers quite easily if caught out of place.
4. Lack of decent mine-laying capability (If you want something decent has to go T1 for M20 and invest in it but mines can be negated by a single sweeper. Also limits on the number of BARs equipped on units)

Stock Artillery unit capabilities are now moot.

1. All stock units outclassed by Axis rocket artillery
2. Pack Howi Nerfed - more micro intensive.
3. Scott Nerfed - more micro intensive.
4. USF Mortar useful at times but again outclassed in the end game.
5. USF Major - great for cheap arty call-in but requires LOS and the major to be in proximity to guide onto the target.

Stock Armor
1. Is PENNED by every axis AT platform from stock units.
2. Must use a combined arms approach in deal with heavy tanks and at times including medium tanks.

Honestly, USF Commanders should be designed to assist the USF player in the late game. The commander selections provides the player with a slight competitive advantage in the end game. At least the commander should augment some of the shortcomings of the USF fraction previously listed.

Just my opinion and again yes I am USF biased.

While I agree with you on the part of late game units in my opinion they just lack something that can take a punch.

But with that comes 2 problems:

1. is that the historical WW2 Allies always lacked tanks that could "competitively" as you said, take on the bigger German cats, hence the late design of the 76mm gun, the Jumbo, the whole tank destroyer doctrine that included the M10, M18 Hellcat and lastly of course, the M36 Jackson, of which there was the M36B1 version which used the Sherman hull as well and last of all, the Pershing which entered the war very late in 1945, had many mechanical issues and that's why it was deemed as unreliable compared to the Sherman as well as at the most being a match only really for the Panther. And I know it's a game but they still have to base it off of something.

I won't go into why the US lacked such a tank or why the Pershing was so late for the party and even rushed but let's just say it had to do with US tank doctrine of the Sherman being designed more as an infantry support tank, politics and the weight limit of harbor cranes being around 40 tons, not to mention the sheer logistical nightmare of getting several types of vehicles, ammunition, fuel, food and on and so forth about 10,000 miles from your homeland over to Europe.

2. is that that's how the USF was designed as well, no Jumbo, all "good" tanks like the 76, E8 and Pershing are all each locked in their own somewhat mediocre commander, maybe except for Mechanized Company, and we, including the community team, lack the tools necessary to carry out the needed changes to remedy this, not to mention that it's also a bit too late now with the faction being in it's what, 6th year or something of being like this in the game?

Core changes are just probably not gonna happen like you're asking for sadly.

No proper animations then. The gun / rocket rack support clips into the mantlet in that mod which looks pretty bad.

I've honestly never noticed it.

I just know he somehow made it a 105 at first and then changed it to a regular 75mm gun which makes sense to me.

Might do a test one of these days tho, record it to see how it looks but I doubt it's very noticable.

So this may be crazy but what about possibly trying to fit the Pershing into Armor Company? It kind of fits well with the other units and abilities in the doctrine. Assault Engineers help to repair the Pershing, Elite Crews help the Perishing get it's important vet faster, and most importantly the M10 now has a worthwhile reason to use as it saves fuel to help get the Pershing out faster compared to the Jackson.
Also has the benefit of getting the Pershing into a second commander while not overlapping pretty much anything between the two.

Funny you mention that, I had another suggestion for a new commander when they were doing those about an year ago that included the Pershing mixed in with other Armor/tank type units.

Now it has nothing do with changes specifically for the Armor Company but I just decided to mention it since it's somewhat of a rehash of the old CoH Armor Company:



I really think the Pershing, E8 and Greyhound all deserve to be in other more uh, "practical" let's just say doctrines/commanders.

You don't need to be an autistic 1v1 top 10 player to see many of the changes are biased as shit, especially because the "balance" team doesn't care about team games at all. You can also clearly see the game is slowly but steadily becoming a samey "e-sports" game which is laughable because I wouldn't count those tournaments for the 10 people stil playing them e-sports.
With every game I've played recently I'm losing more and more will to play this game thanks to the bullshit that still hasn't been touched because it wasn't deemed a problem by the few top literal whos and this commander patch is just going to speed up this process.



Axis screeching would have no end if you could use the Calliope as a normal Sherman although I would like that change.

Well, it'd be more meant as a self-defense thing.

Of course it's gonna most likely be targeted specifically if you try and use it as a normal Sherman but at least you won't really have an excuse when it does actually die that you couldn't do anything about it.

Similar to how the Panzerwerfer and Stuka at least have an MG gunner so a low HP model or 2 can't just run up to it and snare it that easily.

Same could be said about the Sturmtiger but I doubt it.

They're both doctrinal "heavy" tanks with a devastating damage ability, not something like the 105 Sherman, Stupa or StuG III E.