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Balance may be the key, but they cant stop producing new content. It's a business, they can't balance for free at this point. A game that 3 yrs old is no longer really making any revenue off sales. They rely on DLC/Skins,etc to make any sort of cash flow...

There is the argument that improving balance, even if it not a profitable endeavor in the short term, is good for the company's reputation and will improve sales of future titles. That said it's pretty clear that whoever is in charge of Relic doesn't take that view.

We should accept that most players don't notice/care about balance at this point. We are a small and vocal minority; most others who bought the game are happy enjoying campaign, comp stomps, or have long since moved on to this month's new popular game. On top of that, as bad as CoH2 is in some ways, when CoH3 comes out, I guarantee we'll all buy it eventually (albeit perhaps on sale rather than on release).

Anyway it's a lost cause trying to get the balance near-perfect, that would require a major redesign of the factions and some core mechanics. Personally I think the best course of action at this point would be to fund a big push to fix the major balance and technical issues, thus restoring the reputation of the IP. From there, fund a small group of designers to work closely with the community to develop new commanders and occasionally tweak any balance issues their introduction may create.

For CoH3 cut away the shit DLC commander system, and take time to learn from the successes and failures of CoH2. Don't do what happened with the UKF and take all the annoying aspects of Brits from CoH1.

People underrate the usf AT gun, it isn't that bad. Of course on 0 vet it is quite mediocre since you usually have to use tungsten shells. But its arc is much larger than any other stock AT guns like the pak. It also has the fastest ROF, aside from that the vet 1 ability which can be toggled on allows it to sight for itself, and considering its huge arc this is really good. Without vet its average, but with vet its pretty decent.

Good points, I guess my issues with the USF AT gun are:

1: By the time enemy light armour is out you are usually not far off a stuart which is a better counter, easier to keep alive and grants a few minutes of map control. By the time heavier tanks are out you are usually close to affording a Jackson or sherman variant. That's not to say that it doesn't have some use as a stopgap if your fuel income has been reduced but the price tag is high for something that often doesn't deliver much in the late game.

2: AT guns are generally better used defensively, but as USF you are more often on the offensive. While AT guns can certainly be used offensively it requires a lot of micro which means less micro keeping your flimsy American armour alive.

I wouldnt have mentioned the Su85 here but now that it has been discussed a lot already:

For me in taxing 2v2 games there never seems to be the right time to transition from Su76 to Su85 since the fuel investment is so great (90 T4 + 120 Su85) and the performance margin is rather small sub vet3. Then at some point your AT capabilities suffer, but still with this insight you couldn't do any better next time. The Stug for example is situated between 76 and 85 but more cost efficient and still in the cheaper tier of the two..

SU85 is pretty fine, I think it comes down more to the cost and timing of getting to t4 (which has been an issue since t3 became a requirement) and the lackluster other units in t4. With the t34/76 being crap and the Katyusha very hit and miss, rarely is it worth the extra expense of getting t4 and SU85 when you can just spam the more mobile and replaceable su76.

Against Osth the SU85 is a solid vehicle. Can really offer great support in deterring Tigers and Osth panthers but against the OKW heavies it is lacking. I had a saved game that no longer works of my JT (first time I have used one ever) going to town taking 14 tanks out with one single unit as a screen and a InfaredHT to detect flanks.

The barrage ability the JT gets which I think is designed to take out AT is also very effective vsing tanks and the infaredHT tells you exactly where to put it.

Yeah SU85 struggles when a JT is on the field, but the JT is pretty situational and limited to an otherwise meh doctrine. Outside that specific situation, SU85 does good work against p4 and KT, also being a threat to panthers.

I voted yes, although I also think it would be better to test it out with a 60-80% distance before going straight to 50%. Early game building meta is all the rage these days so nerfing nades too hard would lead to big problems for OKW and USF in the early game.

A USF mortar, maybe a light mortar with less range/power but faster setup/teardown time is an interesting idea. Realistically though it's not a requirement and I think it's too late in the game's life to be asking for such a thing.

I don't agree with everything you're said but it's true that Ostheer are struggling a bit in 1v1. Without getting too much into what I've already said in other threads:

1. Ostheer has a ton of crappy doctrines with most of the worthwhile ones being premium. With drops so rare these days you have to work with sub-par doctrines unless you shell out more cash. Most doctrines just enhance what's there, they don't add extra options so the number of strategies in the current meta is small, making it easy for opponents to figure out your strategy. This issue can really apply to all factions though.

2. Tech costs and time requirements are high which makes getting to t3/4 difficult. Having to both pay the research cost then build the building reduces your flexibility because you can't easily save that fuel and put it into something else if need be.

3. Ostheer are the only well designed faction without any major weaknesses so as such they don't have to rely on certain very strong units to make up for their shortcomings in other areas. This makes them feel like they lack that 'wow' factor, and makes it harder for them to take the initiative and force a response from the opponent.

Ostheer don't need a radical change, let's not forget about all the good things about the faction. A 5 or 10 fuel reduction in the research costs and time for t3 would help get that first stug onto the field. While this does create the concern of a faster t4, I'd argue that'll be less of an issue when the pzwerfer gets nerfed again.

As for the 222, I still don't think it needs a buff to its anti-armour performance. OH has plenty of soft tools for fending off AT until the stug arrives. If I absolutely had to do anything to it, I'd boost its performance against snipers and maybe a slight increase in the 2cm damage against vehicles so it can threaten light tanks from the rear.