Profile of Grumpy

Just put it on an AEC and have it follow your tanks. Designate Command Vehicle is one of the most powerful abilities in the game. An AEC with tread shot and two vetted Fireflies is easily the deadliest AT force in the game with incredible DPM.

Just an example (and this wasn't even a very long game):


The only thing that makes this ability balanced is that you have to sacrifice a unit for it (though the debuffs don't seem to apply to tread shot so that still works nicely) and that it costs a ton of resources to accumulate. But once you get things rolling...

Thanks for the suggestion! I tried it today but with a Comet and Cromwell on City 17. Tread breaker helped kill multiple tanks including a Panther, and after the Comet and Crom vetted the other team stopped trying to push them around with their PGren shrek blobs. Unfortunately the game ended before I could get my second Comet going. It would've been interesting to see the four of them running as a pack. I didn't notice the debuff much on the AEC. Tread shot seems to work all of the time.

Just put it on an AEC and have it follow your tanks. Designate Command Vehicle is one of the most powerful abilities in the game. An AEC with tread shot and two vetted Fireflies is easily the deadliest AT force in the game with incredible DPM.

Just an example (and this wasn't even a very long game):


The only thing that makes this ability balanced is that you have to sacrifice a unit for it (though the debuffs don't seem to apply to tread shot so that still works nicely) and that it costs a ton of resources to accumulate. But once you get things rolling...

Thanks, I'll try it on Redball or a similar map next time. I haven't been getting the AEC a lot lately because their window of usefulness seems short in 4's.

Could the location in the UI for Coordinated Fire be moved? When you have one section with Coordinated Fire, one with distribute medical supplies, and are using grid keys, both Coordinated Fire and Distribute Medical Supplies are not usable. There is an open spot at "S" so moving one of the two shouldn't cause a problem.

Is there some way to make a video play in your signature? I tried to put one in but all that shows up is the link.

Most guys in 4vs4 are camping with mgs, mortars, etc. And this map is very good for this playstyle, because its very hard to flank. Thats the reason its played often. For me its a static boring gameplay. Has more in common more with ww1 frontlines than ww2 combat.

General Mud is a good map but too hard for many players. Because of the wide open map.

Well, you can always play Vielsalm instead of Red Ball. Most of us don't veto Red Ball because it is not at all unbalanced.

Vielsalm seems like it should be a better map than it is, but always turns into a weird 2v2, with an odd spot in the middle. Lorch is weird because of the fact that few people can count past three, so they don't know what to do with the extra VP's. Lanzerath is still much worse from the bottom instead of the top. La Gleize is worse from the top than the bottom because of the difficulty in approaching the center VP, and the terrain is worse for units like the SU85 and ISU, that don't like sloping terrain.

Port of Hamburg needs the canals shrunk and moved away from the center VP. It's the only surprise on the list, probably because the other maps are more deserving of vetoes.

Mud isn't too hard. It's too big so it favors tanks like Panthers over everything else. All the mud makes long range infantry important, so most of us veto it as allied and want it as axis.

In short, Rosbone's graphic makes sense because of the balance of the maps, not because people want to camp with MG's and mortars.

The couple new maps like White Ball are really good, but my guess is that the few people that make maps have to put in hundreds of hours to make a map play like that.