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The fact you have to move back to base to reload sturmtiger even further increased the reload time. Avre can fire ~two shots for every one sturmtiger shot. You can dodge the sturms tiger shot as well unless you're camping hard and don't have LOS.

Its AOE isn't small at all. Its excellent for wiping blobs, ISGs, mortars, paks etc. If you have a hard time killing paks with AVRE you're doing it wrong.

move back to base LMAO what move behind your god damn flak truck fwd position counts as moving back to base?


Most 2v2 games if your a good player vs another set of good players comes down to VP points and usually one contested vp point. You can even fucking cap that vp point or contest it when it is a guarantee your gonna get hit by a nuclear bomb every time you attempt to cap it. Dont get me wrong i have won plenty of games against a sturm tiger but lately it is apparent how many advantages the sturm has period. It is a crutch for players who cannot out micro me tank vs tanks or inf vs inf they have to call out the auto matic wipe machine that for the rest of the game I have to be constantly worried about and stops me from being able to engage the enemy. sure flank etc etc but it is really, really difficult against good players to out flank that sturmtiger and swarm through the fucking sea of shrek mobs to take it out. im sure ill get some l2p awnswer its easy to counter as if the enemy will not try to stop you from getting to it like wtf?

If allies had a tool that auto wiped panthers and vetted shrek blobs it would be "unfair" oh wait we did avre despite its inferior capabilities but it wasnt alright to have that its ok OPkw does though. B4? unfair it one shots panthers shrek blobs etc not alright. sturm tiger is though it can one shot comets and like 2 squads of infantry by it all with one shot you couldnt even see coming. especially if you didnt even know it was on the field yet. That one shot just took the game from you though.

AVRE will fire over most obstacles so end result is about the same.

Having to move the sturm away before reloading makes it also to have a slower R.o.f practically...

dosent matter avre can not wipe your infantry unless you have them standing on top of each other. sturm is guaranteed wipe. wipe two squads of vet 3 riflmen late game then it just goes down hill from there. it even stops you from being able to combat other tanks because you constantly have to be worried about the random nuclear bomb comming out of no where wiping your tank and turning the game upside down.

AVRE reloads faster, way better acceleration/deceleration, more armor, more health, faster rotation rate, reloads automatically and on the move and isn't vulnerable while reloading...

All these things are tradeoffs when comparing it with the sturmtiger. Both are excellent. Sturm tiger is more lethal while the avre has better SURVIVABILITY and mobility.

what good is that when it does shit dmg and the aoe is small so you have to be pretty precise you would have to be brain dead to get hit by an avre shell. especially a vehicle. yeah it can rotate but they can see the turrent moving? which just warns them ok its turning to fire this way.. move..? i guess it can hit okw trucks? but that would take 3 shells with them not repairing or defending it? The trade offs are terrible and nobody is going to reload the sturm until it is behind enemy lines? Its not even good at hitting fn at guns really other than big pak others can just move or retreat before it fires most the time.

I cannot remmeber how many axis tears ranting on the forum avre first came out. It could almost one shot panthers and half hp heavies!!!! Not fair even though it couldnt even do it out of fog of war. So they nerf it into the useless piece of shit it is today but some how it is perfectly fine for the sturmtiger to be able to almost one shot 3 comets it can one shot them as well on a direct hit (might as well be one shotted because they even get crew shocked on top of it! Leaving them easy shrek clean up or panther one hit left and shocked). Can fire from fog of war. This is fine though i am sure i see almost every other game now.

"Working as intended"

A bunch of fn bullshit sturmtigers Aoe is Way too huge and does wayyyy too much dmg especially if it crew shocks after wards and fire from fog of war

Avre piece of shit takes longer to fire small aoe does shit dmg, cant fire from fog of war. Useless.

Something needs to change to one or both.

Well your right but anyways agreed AEC needs moved back in timing as well as the luchs just a tad and if relic could figure out how to make a p3 and make it come out in suitable timing great. If they move the AEC back in timing though do you think ost really will need the p3 considering they have the best support weapons as mentioned before every faction kind of has there holes?