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T34 Ram

10 Oct 2019, 11:06 AM
#21
avatar of gbem

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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 02:26 AMrqd
Keep the ram, since in 2v2 matches 2 soviets can't take down superheavys effienctly without t-34-76 ram & il-2 bombing combo. Su-85 can't chase retreating axis armor.


id say the T-34-76 is fine with having ram as an ability only if ram were more consistent... an ensured engine crit at 75% hp plus a gun destroyed crit below 25% hp would be a really good change for ram imo...

the T-34-85`s ram needs to be reworked to something else entirely
10 Oct 2019, 11:51 AM
#22
avatar of Freestyler1992

Posts: 88

Wasn't it better before? Like guaranteed crippling crit of some sort? I remember it being the only counter to Tiger Ace at launch. Just ram the ace with a T34 and then nearly kill it with tank destroyers, then let the economy drain do the rest.
10 Oct 2019, 12:18 PM
#23
avatar of Katitof

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Wasn't it better before? Like guaranteed crippling crit of some sort? I remember it being the only counter to Tiger Ace at launch. Just ram the ace with a T34 and then nearly kill it with tank destroyers, then let the economy drain do the rest.

It was, but people found it overpowered to throw 280mp and 90 fuel AT nade.
10 Oct 2019, 12:37 PM
#24
avatar of thedarkarmadillo

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jump backJump back to quoted post10 Oct 2019, 12:18 PMKatitof

It was, but people found it overpowered to throw 280mp and 90 fuel AT nade.

At nade that immobilized and destroyed the gun of both tanks....
10 Oct 2019, 13:19 PM
#25
avatar of Maret

Posts: 711


At nade that immobilized and destroyed the gun of both tanks....

From one side:
80 fuel medium tank vs 200+ fuel heavy. In old times it was OP as f..k.

While i agree, that destroy gun for healthy heavy or other tanks is too much. But it will be good, if Ram work as regular snare and could destroy gun, if health pool of rammed tank decreased below 25% (or another level) after ram. Ram always do 160 damage (like 1 shot from ATG) to both tanks and it don't destroy gun, if health of P4 is 320 (50%).
10 Oct 2019, 19:16 PM
#26
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 465

Get Isu,
See tiger on the battlefield
Ram tiger
Isu finishes off tiger
???????????????????????????????????
10 Oct 2019, 19:17 PM
#27
avatar of DerKuhlmann

Posts: 465

See Tiger
Ram Tiger
Press IL bombing strike
Dead tiger
??????????

I mean a tank that cost 90 fuel, ram is fine
10 Oct 2019, 19:28 PM
#28
avatar of Maret

Posts: 711

Get Isu,
See tiger on the battlefield
Ram tiger
Isu finishes off tiger
???????????????????????????????????

How much you see ISU in 1vs1? If you have ISU+t34. it means that enemy have tiger and p4 (or maybe 2 panthers).
For 90 fuel tank, Ram costs too much and give not adequate result. Imagine, if your blietzkrieg ability have 5 sec shock after it end. When t-34 had cost 60 fuel, i think ram was ok. But not when 90 fuel tank becomes metall trash after ability used.
11 Oct 2019, 02:40 AM
#29
avatar of 13greed47

Posts: 54

Ram is one of those things I'd like to see reworked, it's currently more damaging to the T-34 in all scenarios except for a few very niche:
  • A base inspection by an unsupported vehicle where you have at least one anti-tank platform that can clean up before the tank you rammed kills your T-34.
  • Your T-34 is one shot from death and you do not have time to pull back, so you go for a ram and hope the enemy tank misses or bounces the next shot before your suicide attack commences.

I haven't given a lot of thought as to what it should be, but punishing you by removing your movement, gun, and 25% of your health is way too harsh for a stun and engine damage on the other vehicle.


also there is plenty of counter to it : all the stunt shot panzer tactician out running him with blitz snare
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