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Hull Down rework

2 Apr 2019, 08:32 AM
#21
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Hull downed panther with cmd pz even wins against atg!!
2 Apr 2019, 08:35 AM
#22
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Yeah because panthers now self spot for themselves...
We are also forgeting that M36 are ferrari tanks able to kite panthers on the move unless they blitz


You do realise that tanks that fire their guns in the fog of war reveal themselves for return fire? And how is it a fair scenario to assume the TD has other units spotting (to fire at its max range) and Panther does not?

It doesn't matter how fast Jacksons are, they can not kite a Hull Down Panther because it outranges them.
2 Apr 2019, 08:58 AM
#23
avatar of Katitof

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Yeah because panthers now self spot for themselves...
We are also forgeting that M36 are ferrari tanks able to kite panthers on the move unless they blitz

Panther speed: 6.6
Jackson speed: 6.7
Panther confirmed Porshe?
2 Apr 2019, 10:21 AM
#24
avatar of Bananenheld

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You do realise that tanks that fire their guns in the fog of war reveal themselves for return fire? And how is it a fair scenario to assume the TD has other units spotting (to fire at its max range) and Panther does not?

It doesn't matter how fast Jacksons are, they can not kite a Hull Down Panther because it outranges them.

Jackson should have 60 sightrange .
2 Apr 2019, 10:24 AM
#25
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Jackson should have 60 sightrange .


No it has 35 sight range.


Jackson
We are removing the M36’s extra sight bonuses. The Jackson will still be an effective tank destroyer due to its high mobility, penetration, range and damage.
• Sight reduced from 40 to 35
• Veterancy 2 sight bonus removed
2 Apr 2019, 10:55 AM
#26
avatar of Bananenheld

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No it has 35 sight range.



I mean it should be buffed to 60 range
2 Apr 2019, 17:09 PM
#27
avatar of distrofio

Posts: 2358



You do realise that tanks that fire their guns in the fog of war reveal themselves for return fire? And how is it a fair scenario to assume the TD has other units spotting (to fire at its max range) and Panther does not?

It doesn't matter how fast Jacksons are, they can not kite a Hull Down Panther because it outranges them.


Breaktrough information: If you dont attack a hulled down Panter FRONTALLY, its turret cannot turn fast enough to return fire. It really works, everytime!

Now for serious, how OP can a jackson must be to either both, to win against a hulled down panther and people pretend it has to? Its time to use the brain istead of the balls...

I also mentioned something about aimed shots, causing the hulled down tank to have a windup time before shooting, instead of instant return fire. If you had read the first post, then you would know that.
2 Apr 2019, 23:48 PM
#28
avatar of KoRneY

Posts: 682


    I mean it should be buffed to 60 range


    +1

    Vet 3 +10 vision for rewarding good play.
    3 Apr 2019, 04:50 AM
    #29
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    jump backJump back to quoted post2 Apr 2019, 23:48 PMKoRneY


      +1

      Vet 3 +10 vision for rewarding good play.


      A self spotting M36 is far OP than it already is and it would get Vet3 even faster. There is no "good play" involved at all.
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