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13 May 2018, 19:13 PM
#1
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Is it normal to continually add Royal engineers + brens to play the lategame?

I've been trying to hold out for anvil tactics for the heavy engineer upgrade but I feel that's too slow.
13 May 2018, 19:55 PM
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Is it normal to continually add Royal engineers + brens to play the lategame?

I've been trying to hold out for anvil tactics for the heavy engineer upgrade but I feel that's too slow.

Its not as slow as it is weak. The best benefit of the anvil heavy engineers is the repair bonus, but DPS is minimal. For combat purposes its just better to wait for an oportunity to get up close with stens, rather than gettin this bloody DPS downgrade

So yeah, Bren all the way
14 May 2018, 11:45 AM
#3
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Do heavy infantry still take bonus damage from tanks and flames?
11 Jun 2018, 04:19 AM
#4
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I don't know why you would, they're the worst engineer unit in the game as far as combat goes.
11 Jun 2018, 12:27 PM
#5
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nerfed into mush like the rest of the british roster

you're better off just ignoring them and going for centaur rush, lategame they will get destroyed by vet3 lmg grens and obers.

11 Jun 2018, 13:48 PM
#6
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Anybody remember when the Heavy Engineer upgrade was free and you could just spam heavy engineer blobs? Fun times.
11 Jun 2018, 15:29 PM
#7
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Anybody have any success with flamers on RE? Is it worth it for blobs or only for dealing with garrisons?
12 Jun 2018, 10:05 AM
#8
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Anybody have any success with flamers on RE? Is it worth it for blobs or only for dealing with garrisons?


Garrisons only. Unless you go 4-5 RE with flamers, havent tried that one...yet.
14 Jun 2018, 07:08 AM
#9
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So do Infantry section have better accuracy with brens too?
14 Jun 2018, 07:35 AM
#10
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So do Infantry section have better accuracy with brens too?

The Bren has much higher DPS than the Enfield rifle, yes.
14 Jun 2018, 14:33 PM
#11
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In comparison to engineers... of course the bren has better accuracy LOL
14 Jun 2018, 17:17 PM
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14 Jun 2018, 18:30 PM
#13
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/179052010

They are obviously not bad.


8 months ago maybe, now remake that test with current patch flamer pios vs obers. I've played around with it but you just end up feeding lmg grens vet and free bren guns.

heavy engie strats just don't work anymore sadly
14 Jun 2018, 18:32 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Jun 2018, 18:30 PMroll0


8 months ago maybe, now remake that test with current patch flamer pios vs obers. I've played around with it but you just end up feeding lmg grens vet and free bren guns.

heavy engie strats just don't work anymore sadly


Yeah, their stats were changed zero in the last patch.
14 Jun 2018, 18:39 PM
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Anybody have any success with flamers on RE? Is it worth it for blobs or only for dealing with garrisons?


Get one for dealing with buildings instead of a wasp on urban maps, so like 2 section, vickers + tech up and flamer engie. Then maybe another IS with pyrotechnics or commandos.

Just keep in mind if you put piats on them they will only a-move fire the piats to the range of the flamers. Best to leave them with stens and the flamer really.
14 Jun 2018, 18:47 PM
#16
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Yeah, their stats were changed zero in the last patch.


it did in the time you tested that 8+ months ago. There's been two patches with two rounds of nerfs to lmg sappers

december


three weeks ago


Obers got some nice mp reduction and minor buffs too

14 Jun 2018, 18:49 PM
#17
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jump backJump back to quoted post14 Jun 2018, 18:47 PMroll0


it did in the time you tested that 8+ months ago. There's been two patches with two rounds of nerfs to lmg sappers

december


three weeks ago


Obers got some nice mp reduction too



1st point, fair enough. 2nd point, no. The Heavy sappers use the Vickers K not the Bren, so the DPS from that weapon is still the same. Furthermore, GOOD. 210 MP 5 man engineers should not be able to run up to fucking obers and win an engagement.
14 Jun 2018, 19:02 PM
#18
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1st point, fair enough. 2nd point, no. The Heavy sappers use the Vickers K not the Bren, so the DPS from that weapon is still the same. Furthermore, GOOD. 210 MP 5 man engineers should not be able to run up to fucking obers and win an engagement.


It gets a bit silly if you're using test vids from outdated patches to judge current strats, this was my beef with you. Imagine asking about penal builds but I posted a video of a year ago when they were seal clubbing grens and volks with penal flamers. It just adds nothing to the strat talk or conversation.

Try a lmg heavy sapper build and see how far you get but right now I feel they are way too weak for it to work. Anvil sapper upgrade+5 man upgrade makes them sort of stand their ground in green cover vs LMG grens but they still drop like flies once grens hit vet 3. RA nerfs hit them hard.

GOOD. 210 MP 5 man engineers should not be able to run up to fucking obers and win an engagement.


I never said they should




4 Jul 2018, 23:09 PM
#19
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Royal Engineers are probably the most worthles unit of its type when it comes to combat. Even putting PIATs on them kind of sucks since they can be so easily wiped by a Panzer IV and Ostwind.
10 Aug 2018, 13:02 PM
#20
avatar of Kanjejou

Posts: 54

Wait aren't they cheaper to reinforce(once vetted at least)?
Slightly stronger than soviet american and ost engineers?
and can double special weapons?

Correct me if I am wrong
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