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The problem with FHQs/ forward retreat

13 May 2017, 02:21 AM
#21
avatar of Antaria

Posts: 68

It would be lovely if FHQ could just be removed from the game. So much map control is granted by any sort of forward retreat point, and it promotes bunkering/bunker busting gameplay, instead of maneuvering and outplaying your opponent for map control.
13 May 2017, 12:43 PM
#22
avatar of Alphrum

Posts: 808

or just give all factions FRP?
13 May 2017, 15:20 PM
#23
avatar of Dangerous-Cloth

Posts: 2066

I kind of like this idea, but the Halftracks seem an overnerf. Yet you still have entire armies retreating to a forward point on the map and returning in the blink of an eye whilst Soviets need a doctrine for this and Ostheer have literally no option here.
13 May 2017, 15:28 PM
#24
avatar of ZombiFrancis

Posts: 2742

Are we talking FHQs or FRPs? They're very different things...

FRPs are pretty annoying for how they aren't available to all factions.

Teams should be able to designate each other's HQs are retreat points.

FHQs are a different thing, and aren't well implemented in CoH2 IMO. They worked well for CoH1, but they functioned very differently.

FHQs were just ambient buildings you spent manpower on to 'capture'. You could then produce any unit you'd build tech buildings for from it. Opponents could decap the FHQ as long as it wasn't garrisoned. The FHQs gave no aura bonuses.
13 May 2017, 16:19 PM
#25
avatar of Dangerous-Cloth

Posts: 2066

Are we talking FHQs or FRPs? They're very different things...

FRPs are pretty annoying for how they aren't available to all factions.

Teams should be able to designate each other's HQs are retreat points.

FHQs are a different thing, and aren't well implemented in CoH2 IMO. They worked well for CoH1, but they functioned very differently.

FHQs were just ambient buildings you spent manpower on to 'capture'. You could then produce any unit you'd build tech buildings for from it. Opponents could decap the FHQ as long as it wasn't garrisoned. The FHQs gave no aura bonuses.


Yeah CoH1 did so many things better...
13 May 2017, 19:00 PM
#26
avatar of DAZ187

Posts: 465

FHQ should have never been added into the game. makes players blob brainless. and give little to nothing breathing room for ost and soviet players to breath after defending.

well at least ost has reinforcement bunkers and med bunkers but at the end of the day what does soviets have lol ?

13 May 2017, 22:35 PM
#27
avatar of aerafield

Posts: 2977 | Subs: 3

I kind of like this idea, but the Halftracks seem an overnerf. Yet you still have entire armies retreating to a forward point on the map and returning in the blink of an eye whilst Soviets need a doctrine for this and Ostheer have literally no option here.


I think I can't agree more with all you guys. Not FHQs, but FRPs are the real problem.

And yeh half tracks would be too over-nerfed
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