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is Rzhev summer back?

25 Jan 2017, 22:49 PM
#1
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I played a 3v3 automatch today and was put on Rzhev summer...and got annihilated by allied arty spam. Is this map back or was that just a weird glitch?
25 Jan 2017, 23:16 PM
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Weird glitch, but "back" in the rotation effectively. It's the shittiest map.
V-T
26 Jan 2017, 07:38 AM
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What exactly makes Rzhev krappy?

I had a quick comp stomp with a friend a while ago and it wasn't a bad map, just challenging.
26 Jan 2017, 09:35 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Jan 2017, 07:38 AMV-T
What exactly makes Rzhev krappy?

I had a quick comp stomp with a friend a while ago and it wasn't a bad map, just challenging.


thats just it. you played it as a comp stomp:snfPeter:
26 Jan 2017, 10:33 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Jan 2017, 07:38 AMV-T
What exactly makes Rzhev krappy?

I had a quick comp stomp with a friend a while ago and it wasn't a bad map, just challenging.


It's a sort of "Choke point" map ideal for Comp Stomps mostly, and as you notice, very camping gameplay where Players either slug it out with the AI or with other players with combat units OR artillery.

It's akin to the "Scheldt" map from the original CoH, it's one of the most hated maps by all of the faster paced competitive people but the most loved one by Comp Stompers and especially Royal Canadian Artillery Support British players.

I never understood people that joined games with the Scheldt and then left when we became bogged down and the game turned into a slugging match.
V-T
26 Jan 2017, 10:43 AM
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:D Ok, my match didn't bog down. I'm sure it can happen easily, but doesn't need to.
It's not as bad as achelous river, lyon, vire river valley or a few others...

I like that the map isn't a dadgum mirrorimage. I kinda like the idea that there's a little offset on the map which gives no options but to adapt.

Personally i hate "arena" style maps where there's no real difference between sides. And scheldt. I pudding hate scheldt.
26 Jan 2017, 12:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Jan 2017, 07:38 AMV-T
What exactly makes Rzhev krappy?

I had a quick comp stomp with a friend a while ago and it wasn't a bad map, just challenging.


Also about south and north.

You have the middle Vp on the south island. You have at the middle VP south a House, where you can put a mg in it.

Left side, if you wire the small bridge you can't really attack left fuel and left vp.

There is only 1 munition point on the map. And ofc South has green cover for it :P

--> South free win. North almost 0 chance
26 Jan 2017, 14:00 PM
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I do not know why so many people hate Summer Rzhev. But I love this map. Because the game on this map are bloody, resistant and very cruel. The map makes work hard. And I love it
26 Jan 2017, 14:36 PM
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--> South free win. North almost 0 chance


Unfortunately this happens with many maps
26 Jan 2017, 15:04 PM
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Problems with the map:
The map is extremely chokepointy.
Large advances in total area result in very small changes in resource income.
Many points are effectively off limits from minute 0.
Short retreat paths mean constant blobbing.


This map is an arty festival. There is no way against evenly matched opponents to win quickly, and as a result everyone techs to arty as quickly as possible and blows each other away until the game ends.
26 Jan 2017, 15:46 PM
#11
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Nobody can say there aren't huge problems with this map unless you only play allies. If there weren't so many shot blockers and bottlenecks it wouldn't be bad.

Anyway, is it back? Anyone else played it in automatch?
26 Jan 2017, 17:19 PM
#12
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jump backJump back to quoted post26 Jan 2017, 15:46 PMSchmitz
Nobody can say there aren't huge problems with this map unless you only play allies. If there weren't so many shot blockers and bottlenecks it wouldn't be bad.

Anyway, is it back? Anyone else played it in automatch?


its a bug you can ge this map, but you can't veto it.

Same to Hill400 it just disappeared
26 Jan 2017, 17:25 PM
#13
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its cool. should be stay GabeN
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