Sandbag cover should be 50 percent larger.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 18:24 PMPolar Lights

Sandbags built by Okw and US provide too little coverage for a five man squad.
Length of sandbags should be increased by 50 percent in order to fix this.

This lack of coverage contributes to their weakness vs MG spam.
You can build a defensive sandbag but the 5th model will often not be covered; therefore the entire unit will end up suppressed then pinned. Also many green cover map objects tend to only have 3 or 4 spaces of protection.

Sandbags are basically just large enough to cover the four man squads of Ukf (before five man upgrade) and Ost. Su con sandbags by comparison are able to provide ample cover for their six man squads.

It would be awesome if this could be fixed under "Squad Spacing" as five man squads do not fit behind the current sandbags that can only really cover four models.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 19:08 PMVuther

Gonna have to agree with Aradan. Just build another segment. I'm pretty sure WFA's sandbags build faster because of that.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 21:48 PMPolar Lights

Because building one segment is the same time as capping a normal point.

Guess it would be better if they could be sandbags 2x as fast.
As you do need two in order to actually provide yourself with cover.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 20:16 PMTiger Baron

They are models therefore they can't just add an extra segment for the 5th man.

That would require Relic to make new longer models of sandbags, which I can assure you, will NEVER happen.

My solution is simple, make it like in CoH, simple small segments and you can build as many as you like in whatever shape.

I even added them to my mod to replace the WFA sandbags, here's a picture: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=469886402

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 22:03 PMferwiner

Its quite simple - if you want better protection you stay around for another segment. If you want more resources you go to the next point leaving sandbags unfinished. Coh is a game of decisions, here is the one. Mind that you still are in better position than soviet conscripts, whose sandbags are bigger but are impossible to build during single capture of normal point.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 23:26 PMPolar Lights

Sandbags should provide protection. Thats why you build it. Only providing 90 percent protection is just plain retard mode. Half arsed design does the game no good. Sandbags were made to protect 4 man squads.

OKW and USA have five man squads but they did not update the bags to cover the entire squad.
I would consider this a bug fix or quality of life as opposed to anything else.

Jump back to quoted post18 Dec 2016, 23:22 PMZombiFrancis

The ability can also be made to spawn more than 1 of those entities. If a second entity is adjusted down a length of a sandbag and rotated 180 degrees it'd work as well.

It ain't impossible is all I'm saying.

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2016, 20:48 PMtightrope

I agree with ferwiner it was intentional design. I think sandbags are good enough already. How does the health of the WFA sandbags compare to the conscript ones?

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2016, 10:29 AMDonnieChan

every day i see the wildest ideas here...

Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2016, 12:10 PMAradan

Polar Lights:

If you prepare defence, you have time build two sandbag cover.

Smaller squads need only one, but take it as they advantage.


You mean build cover during capturing? Pro players buil one, but close to the flag, so that the enemy can not use the cover. Larger cover would go against this tactic.