Comeback Strats

Jump back to quoted post1 Feb 2016, 09:11 AMCaptn. Winters

Hi all!

What is your go to plan if u are falling behind on the battlefield? U have been pushed back, the enemy has the majority of the map, possibly they even have superior forces. Do u have a unit u find helps u back into the game? Or a commander ability? What do u do to win that glorious come back?

Jump back to quoted post1 Feb 2016, 10:55 AMruzen

COH2 allready has too much comeback mechanics. Sometimes you just have to acknowledge a defeat and move on. This Isnt Hollywood movie.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:01 PMedibleshrapnel

Dafuq you mean "come back mechanics", like It's some sort of thing Relic put in the game, comebacks are a result of smart play and perserverance, I've lost to people whom pushed me back and won after I controlled the entire map and they had only 3 VP's left. I've done the same aswell. And you don't even answer the question, you just say give up and move on.


So, to answer the OP's question as USF. USF tends to maintain a more mobile and faster force, mitigating that for tanky units and brawlers. If you have tactical support, Halftrack with AA and calliope are fairly decent for pushing back. With heavy cav, pershing if you can hold on. Armour company is really dedicated to pushing the enemy back, the M10 and Bulldozer and really great units at what they do, if you can't gain a decisive advantage, select the Armour company.

Basically, flanking and Premium commanders. That's just how Relic has made the USF. Kinda linear, but it is what it is.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:01 PMedibleshrapnel

Dafuq you mean "come back mechanics", like It's some sort of thing Relic put in the game, comebacks are a result of smart play and perserverance, I've lost to people whom pushed me back and won after I controlled the entire map and they had only 3 VP's left. I've done the same aswell. And you don't even answer the question, you just say give up and move on.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:01 PMedibleshrapnel

Dafuq you mean "come back mechanics", like It's some sort of thing Relic put in the game, comebacks are a result of smart play and perserverance, I've lost to people whom pushed me back and won after I controlled the entire map and they had only 3 VP's left. I've done the same aswell. And you don't even answer the question, you just say give up and move on.


So, to answer the OP's question as USF. USF tends to maintain a more mobile and faster force, mitigating that for tanky units and brawlers. If you have tactical support, Halftrack with AA and calliope are fairly decent for pushing back. With heavy cav, pershing if you can hold on. Armour company is really dedicated to pushing the enemy back, the M10 and Bulldozer and really great units at what they do, if you can't gain a decisive advantage, select the Armour company.

Basically, flanking and Premium commanders. That's just how Relic has made the USF. Kinda linear, but it is what it is.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:54 PMruzen

First of all If you going to continue talking like a character from a summer Hollywood movie, I wont even bother continue the conversation.
Regarding comeback mechanics, in COH2 there are no PopCap like in VCOH. Resulting loosing cutoffs wont hurt that much you can still create units even you have one or none points.
Also because of MP Upkeep mechanic tied to the population, resulting Players who successfully able to create high popcap army are bleading MP more than less popcap opponent because of less MP income. Examples of locking USF player into the base and loose nevertheless asking yourself "how da hell he manage to create units?"

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:05 PMferwiner

There is a comeback mechanic, its called upkeep cost, the other one is popcap. Without these army of winning player would grow so fast that comeback would be impossible.

@OP: there is a comeback chance for usf, the calliope, just like any other rocket artillery it bleeds your opponent so you can comeback more easily. Still its hard, especially against okw who have far superior late game.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 23:21 PMedibleshrapnel

Really though, think about what you're saying, that Relic simply instituted these features so that opponents could make a "comeback", or simply to restrain the size and strength of an army.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 23:25 PMtheblitz6794

Excuse me for being insightful but those are two interconnected ideas.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:54 PMruzen

First of all If you going to continue talking like a character from a summer Hollywood movie, I wont even bother continue the conversation.
Regarding comeback mechanics, in COH2 there are no PopCap like in VCOH. Resulting loosing cutoffs wont hurt that much you can still create units even you have one or none points.
Also because of MP Upkeep mechanic tied to the population, resulting Players who successfully able to create high popcap army are bleading MP more than less popcap opponent because of less MP income. Examples of locking USF player into the base and loose nevertheless asking yourself "how da hell he manage to create units?"

Jump back to quoted post3 Feb 2016, 00:10 AMedibleshrapnel

I'm not sure what "summer hollywood" character speech is, but if that's what you think of me then get bloody used too it. Anyways, if I remember correctly, there was in fact pop cap in Vcoh. If you've ever played it. Losing cut offs will hurt you, you won't be able to construct tanks or use abilities very often.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2016, 20:05 PMferwiner

There is a comeback mechanic, its called upkeep cost, the other one is popcap. Without these army of winning player would grow so fast that comeback would be impossible.

@OP: there is a comeback chance for usf, the calliope, just like any other rocket artillery it bleeds your opponent so you can comeback more easily. Still its hard, especially against okw who have far superior late game.

Jump back to quoted post9 Feb 2016, 00:38 AMVirtual Boar

Slight hiccup in your plan...Calliope is paid commander.