could someone please explain to me, in simple terms, just how the USF are able to abuse a faction which has the most potent AT on their base infantry and a more than sufficient AT gun that seems to go invisible anywhere. Oh, and mines.
With the stuart of all things.
USF light vehicle abuse disheartening new/average players
10 Jan 2016, 20:28 PM
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10 Jan 2016, 20:31 PM
#22
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" faction which has the most potent AT on their base infantry "
Hmm...
You've misspelled OKW in the title and in the post.
You've also misspelled "Luchs".
Hmm...
You've misspelled OKW in the title and in the post.
You've also misspelled "Luchs".
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
10 Jan 2016, 20:55 PM
#23
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"abuse"
Tobis "Complete Throw"
Someone asked what my avatar was from... I really don't know.
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10 Jan 2016, 21:18 PM
#24
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" faction which has the most potent AT on their base infantry "
Hmm...
You've misspelled OKW in the title and in the post.
You've also misspelled "Luchs".
Grim is agreeing with you lol
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10 Jan 2016, 22:06 PM
#25
Posts: 320
How'd you get a stuart out at 5 minutes?
One neat thing I liked about USF is by seeing what they got (Cap, LT) you can predict what they are going to build.
One neat thing I liked about USF is by seeing what they got (Cap, LT) you can predict what they are going to build.
11 Jan 2016, 15:48 PM
#26
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omg
play
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card
pls
can you actually post something useful? just a SINGLE time? i only read crap coming out of your keyboard..
11 Jan 2016, 16:03 PM
#27
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can you actually post something useful? just a SINGLE time? i only read crap coming out of your keyboard..
99% of the balance forum is crying about being outplayed
in what way is that useful?
11 Jan 2016, 16:23 PM
#28
Posts: 301
can you actually post something useful? just a SINGLE time? i only read crap coming out of your keyboard..
He is rude but he is right.
Watching countless thread about a "badstorybro" and a call for balance from outplayed people is an exhausting experience. The OP subject has been threated a million times before and the "research" button not exploited enough.
If you can go through his harsh words you can see that his analysis are very often justified.
My favourite section of this forum is by far the "guides" and "state office" unfortunatly the most stuffed is the "balance" one.
Kozo.
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and pain... the perfect educator...
and pain... the perfect educator...
11 Jan 2016, 16:27 PM
#29
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Stuart is a problem because it has good stun abilities which could be op on some open maps with double M1's support (as Jesulin show last week) but AI of Stuart is as good as it should be and its really exemplar how T-70 and Luchs should looks.
But the bigger problem is M20 and his ability to plant non doctrinal Riegels which is bs as duck, got zook on crew and can easily deal with 222 with little support (or even not with good micro), has immediately critical repairs, good speed and accelerate, even good survivability so it can deal with single shreks and grens so it's perfect vehicle to harras and counter harras and has good damage to infantry and its good counter to snipers (but you have to know when drive through the lines and get the victim). Its a bit universal vehicles and in most cases its payoff by more than 2x because it's not only killing but as I said, its protecting your resources. VindicareX took several points about light vehicles but actually, there were not top players to discuss with and topic has gonnr
But the bigger problem is M20 and his ability to plant non doctrinal Riegels which is bs as duck, got zook on crew and can easily deal with 222 with little support (or even not with good micro), has immediately critical repairs, good speed and accelerate, even good survivability so it can deal with single shreks and grens so it's perfect vehicle to harras and counter harras and has good damage to infantry and its good counter to snipers (but you have to know when drive through the lines and get the victim). Its a bit universal vehicles and in most cases its payoff by more than 2x because it's not only killing but as I said, its protecting your resources. VindicareX took several points about light vehicles but actually, there were not top players to discuss with and topic has gonnr
11 Jan 2016, 18:23 PM
#30
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How'd you get a stuart out at 5 minutes?
Requires at least 2v2+ and another USF player. Cache + Mechanized withdraw ability would make you able to get a Stuart by 5mins if you also use the Captain ability of supervise.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
11 Jan 2016, 18:27 PM
#31
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99% of the balance forum is crying about being outplayed
in what way is that useful?
There is also difference between fun and no fun to play against, and thats the feeling people get when playing against light vehicles, mainly from usf. Rank doesnt really matter in that topic.
11 Jan 2016, 19:10 PM
#32
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There is also difference between fun and no fun to play against, and thats the feeling people get when playing against light vehicles, mainly from usf. Rank doesnt really matter in that topic.
snipers
bofors
mortar pit
churchills
typhoons
that stupid stun/smoke ability from the brits
are much much worse
12 Jan 2016, 08:45 AM
#33
Posts: 39
OKW don't have panzershreks and cloaking at gun in T0, idk how okw counters it.hahahahaha
12 Jan 2016, 08:50 AM
#34
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Jan 2016, 09:13 AM
#35
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I don't feel Stuart is OP. He is just fulfilling its role properly. That is the mistake that many allied biased players did when posting here about how OP is this or that OKW unit. Some of them were not OP, they were just fulfilling thier role as they should, according to their intended role. As Stuart does now for americans.
In order to undersand better what I just said, let me give you an example of a unit that doesn't perform properly: the ostwind. You would expect that unit to have good effect against infantry. Well wrong. It hasn't. So it's kinda' broken.
Don't nerf stuart just for fulfilling its role as it should.
In order to undersand better what I just said, let me give you an example of a unit that doesn't perform properly: the ostwind. You would expect that unit to have good effect against infantry. Well wrong. It hasn't. So it's kinda' broken.
Don't nerf stuart just for fulfilling its role as it should.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
12 Jan 2016, 09:31 AM
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lol if i feel depressed and wanna have a laugh then i open this thread Kappa
12 Jan 2016, 13:09 PM
#37
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There is also difference between fun and no fun to play against, and thats the feeling people get when playing against light vehicles, mainly from usf. Rank doesnt really matter in that topic.
Well that "no fun" teached me quite fast to:
- Predict enemy fuel consumption/usage
- Predict enemy fuel income
- If i don't have a clue of enemy fuel income/usage i'll build pak asap
- Mine, first 50 munition should go to mine. preferably on road near enemy base.
- 2 grens can push light vehicles to retreat, as pak and 1 gren can kill a light vehicle with ease.
- When in doubt build some more mines.
12 Jan 2016, 13:14 PM
#38
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Well that "no fun" teached me quite fast to:
- Predict enemy fuel consumption/usage
- Predict enemy fuel income
- If i don't have a clue of enemy fuel income/usage i'll build pak asap
- Mine, first 50 munition should go to mine. preferably on road near enemy base.
- 2 grens can push light vehicles to retreat, as pak and 1 gren can kill a light vehicle with ease.
- When in doubt build some more mines.
You leveled up and unlocked "Anticipation" skill
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
12 Jan 2016, 14:06 PM
#39
Posts: 168
Implying the Panzer II is not also as good.
Panzer II has better RoF and scales better, so no.
Also you're implying Axis doesn't have the best AT.
Panzer II has better RoF and scales better, so no.
Also you're implying Axis doesn't have the best AT.
Of coursh
12 Jan 2016, 14:33 PM
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*Looks at OP's post count* *moves along*
Dat troll thread
Dat troll thread
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