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1 Nov 2015, 21:14 PMTaurusBully

We are talking about game balance not real life purposes.

All the vehicles in the game were designed loosely off their real life counter parts. Hence the name designations, armor and gun profiles. If you can't tell the difference between a 76mm and 75mm you shouldn't even be talking about balance.

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I think +80 hp OR -30 fuel would be great for this tank. Also it bounces a frustratingly large amount of times on the Panther, but I think it's more of a "nerf panther armor" issue than "buff pershing pen" issue

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pershing is fine. so is the whole commander.

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What alot of people don't also seem to notice is if you use the HVAP round for 90 munis, it does 240 damage and you can do a rapid shot (hvap then a normal shot or vice versa)

Like the OST sniper, this ability will get people to retreat there tank when they take two rapid hits or 380 damage.

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Pershing it's not "wow". It's a good tank, but you should not expect sending it alone into enemy lines and win you the battle like *cough* a verry "balanced" british tank *cough* that we all know.

And I think it's ok like this, Tiger is not currently "wow" eather.

Does someone still build tiger...?

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2 Nov 2015, 07:23 AMJohnnyB

Does someone still build tiger...?

Yeah, the vast majority of whermacht players.

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Perhaps we could give the pershing another ability, it just lacks a clear role that helps other units, apart from being a damage sponge.
I suggest giving it the M10 Flank Speed ability at vet 2 or the sherman smoke ability. Or maby make the veterancy grenade throw ability a self useable one. So you yourself could aim it like the comet version.

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I daresay pershing actually needs a crew for it's price, it's almost like Relic intented to give it a crew. It's relatively low armour and health that all USF tanks have to justify crews.

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2 Nov 2015, 09:24 AMLooney

[...]pershing[...]being a damage sponge.[...]

25 Nov 2015, 11:09 AM$nuffy

Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.

Good Stuff here

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2 Nov 2015, 07:26 AMOmega_Warrior

Yeah, the vast majority of whermacht players.

Then I am one of them who doesn't build it anymore, simply because there are other better options...

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2 Nov 2015, 09:41 AMKatitof

Comparing the pershing to other heavy tanks it is really bad health wise, comparing it to all other USF tanks makes it a heavy tank. OpieOP

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One Stug rip Pershing at part. WTF.

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Tiger 1 is still really viable. I also still make it. Great AT/AI tank and you know exactly what you get for that price.

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2 Nov 2015, 11:09 AMTAKTCOM

One Stug rip Pershing at part. WTF.

One su85 rip Tiger at part.

whats your point?

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2 Nov 2015, 12:23 PMMoerserKarL

One su85 rip Tiger at part.

whats your point?

Not really if there is vet 2 Tiger with a range of tank destroyer

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2 Nov 2015, 13:25 PMAustralian Magic

Not really if there is vet 2 Tiger with a range of tank destroyer

..fair comparison( vet 0 vs vet 2 l0l? and you need atleast 10mins to vet up a tiger to vet 2). did u see vet 2 su85 machingun like firerate? jeez whats up with this forum